• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

Come, And Obey.

capnator

Senior Member
Jan 20, 2006
894
57
48
Queensland the Sunshine state :)
✟23,820.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Come, And Obey.

Two pivitol, critical things in our spiritual walk. Firstly come to Jesus. "Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Matt 11:28. Every success in the spiritual realm is a gift from God and He gives when we come to Him. We often try to find our own substitutes for this, but it doesn't and won't ever work. Our enemy knows the power of people coming and "sitting at the feet of Jesus", he is a master of distraction.

After we come next OBEY, this idea sometimes seems to get some resistance. Jesus led the way, He set the example. "Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work." John 4:34 This needs to be where we are at!
 

Alive_Again

Resident Alien
Sep 16, 2010
4,167
231
✟27,991.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Word of Faith
At whatever level of obedience, we come to know of the Lord's love and mercy as we take His yoke of servanthood. We learn of His love for us as we love others with His love.

When you pray for someone else, often you feel His compassion and when you give a word of encouragement for someone suffering, you see His anointing flow through you to that person and we learn of Him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mixolydian
Upvote 0

Servant.DujmovJr

MercyandTruth
Dec 16, 2010
162
13
Nong Khai, Thailand
✟22,952.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Constitution
Come, And Obey.

Two pivitol, critical things in our spiritual walk. Firstly come to Jesus. "Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Matt 11:28. Every success in the spiritual realm is a gift from God and He gives when we come to Him. We often try to find our own substitutes for this, but it doesn't and won't ever work. Our enemy knows the power of people coming and "sitting at the feet of Jesus", he is a master of distraction.

After we come next OBEY, this idea sometimes seems to get some resistance. Jesus led the way, He set the example. "Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work." John 4:34 This needs to be where we are at!

Jesus led the way, He set the example.
Well said. What was the example that He set?
He gave His life for sinners. Christ died for the ungodly.
That is the example.
To lay down your life for your friends is one thing; To lay down your life for those who hate you is something even more special.
Peace unto you :pray:
Steve
 
Upvote 0

wayfaring man

Veteran
Jan 25, 2004
7,761
1,173
✟20,615.00
Faith
Non-Denom
To know Christ is to love Him,

And to love Him is to obey Him.

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keeps his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
He that saith he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
<-----> 1st John 2:3-6

He that hath my commandments, and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
He that loves me not keeps not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
<-----> John 14:21-24

Jesus said unto him, If thou can believe, all things are possible to him that believes. <-----> Mark 9:23

For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision avails any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which works by love. <-----> Galatians 5:6

May we line up with the truth before our time is up.

wm
 
Upvote 0

Servant.DujmovJr

MercyandTruth
Dec 16, 2010
162
13
Nong Khai, Thailand
✟22,952.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Constitution
wayfaring man
To know Christ is to love Him
And to love Him is to obey Him.

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Actually, it goes....."He who says he knows God and has not love is a liar."

But whoso keeps his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
He that saith he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. <-----> 1st John 2:3-6
So by this can I assume that you walk as Christ walked? Do you walk on the sea, make the blind to see and the lame to walk? Christ said you should. Are you disobeying His commands?
He that hath my commandments, and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
He that loves me not keeps not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. <-----> John 14:21-24
The Father that sent Him; sent Him to die for those who murdered Him.
Jesus said unto him, If thou can believe, all things are possible to him that believes. <-----> Mark 9:23

For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision avails any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which works by love. <-----> Galatians 5:6

May we line up with the truth before our time is up.
The truth is that Christ said; to love your neighbor as you love yourself. Christ did not say; love only those who keep my commandments: Nor did He say; love your neighbor with conditions.
Christ said if your brother sins against you, seven times seventy times, that you should forgive him. Do you obey that commandment too?
Where are the conditions for love in that?
Peace unto you :pray:
Steve
 
Upvote 0

wayfaring man

Veteran
Jan 25, 2004
7,761
1,173
✟20,615.00
Faith
Non-Denom
SDJ,

You appear to be exhibiting offense at what Scripture says in a challenging way.

But those things do not offend me, because I make no great claims about myself.

Nor do I believe it is my place to make claims about myself.

But it seems this wisdom is absent... due to your reactionary response.

Christ set the standard.

And the primary objective is to be elevated unto Him, and not lower Christ-likeness to fit us.

May The Lord Be Magnified !

wm
 
Upvote 0

Servant.DujmovJr

MercyandTruth
Dec 16, 2010
162
13
Nong Khai, Thailand
✟22,952.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Constitution
SDJ,

You appear to be exhibiting offense at what Scripture says in a challenging way.
I take no offense. However, I do challenge the notion that God's love is conditional or that if one has failure in obeying that God no longer loves them.

But those things do not offend me, because I make no great claims about myself.

Nor do I believe it is my place to make claims about myself.

But it seems this wisdom is absent... due to your reactionary response.
It seems that your reaction is one of defence. I did not try to offend.
You pointing to "a lack of wisdom" is an offending reaction.
Let love be without hypocrisy.

Christ set the standard.

And the primary objective is to be elevated unto Him, and not lower Christ-likeness to fit us.
Christ set the standard; He died for the ungodly.
God forbid that I would ever try to make Christ-likeness to fit me. I don't think that I ever implied any such thing.

May The Lord Be Magnified
Amen. That's all that I want; to glorify my Lord, my Master and my Redeemer.
Let love be without hypocrisy.
Peace unto you, with love :pray:
Steve
 
Upvote 0

wayfaring man

Veteran
Jan 25, 2004
7,761
1,173
✟20,615.00
Faith
Non-Denom
I take no offense. However, I do challenge the notion that God's love is conditional or that if one has failure in obeying that God no longer loves them.


It seems that your reaction is one of defence. I did not try to offend.
You pointing to "a lack of wisdom" is an offending reaction.
Let love be without hypocrisy.


Christ set the standard; He died for the ungodly.
God forbid that I would ever try to make Christ-likeness to fit me. I don't think that I ever implied any such thing.


Amen. That's all that I want; to glorify my Lord, my Master and my Redeemer.
Let love be without hypocrisy.
Peace unto you, with love :pray:
Steve

Your somewhat out of context remarks about God's conditional love should be made in the other thread.

And going on and on, back and forth in someone else's thread with another mere poster in that thread is disrespectful to the originator of that thread.

And love does not behave disrespectfully.

Therefore, my apologies to capnator and CF.

And the sincerity of my apology will hopefully be seen by my restraint from continuing to participate in this attempt at hijacking and derailing this thread.

How easy it is to talk about the virtuous, even while contradicting it's essence with the very nature of that talk !

May The Lord Be Pleased !

wm
 
Upvote 0

godisreal36

Well-Known Member
Nov 19, 2010
1,645
94
State of ohio, USA
✟2,178.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Republican
If an OP of a thread gets offended, love is not being served. Ive argued allot on this forum, i am surprised at how many of us try and instruct others when we don't even exercise love. I am ashamed of myself for doing this.
Ive heard many people say that it's the OP's thread, is it? Love can't own a thread. Should i feel bad for seeking help? I have posted in many threads, feeling unwelcome is not love. What would the OP teach me if i easily offended them?
 
Upvote 0

godisreal36

Well-Known Member
Nov 19, 2010
1,645
94
State of ohio, USA
✟2,178.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Republican
I'm sorry for that, i hate criticism from others and hate giving it. I feel horrible yet this thread business bothers me.

I think you come up with really good threads, i love them, thanks wayfaring man.

Also thanks to the OP of this thread. I hope i am welcome, and hope i don't offend anyone.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0