• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Collusion...is there any doubt now?

bhsmte

Newbie
Apr 26, 2013
52,761
11,792
✟254,941.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Hope springs eternal, but there certainly seems to be a strong trend in the other direction so far.

As i would expect. When you keep digging though, you tend to find things that take you in a different direction, as in the podesta group.

And, the term hope has nothing to do with my views except, i hope they follow the evidence.
 
Reactions: Almost there
Upvote 0

KCfromNC

Regular Member
Apr 18, 2007
30,256
17,181
✟553,130.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
Upvote 0

Almost there

Well-Known Member
Oct 24, 2017
3,571
1,152
61
Kentucky
✟52,042.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Upvote 0

DaisyDay

I Did Nothing Wrong!! ~~Team Deep State
Jan 7, 2003
42,654
20,480
Finger Lakes
✟328,859.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Unitarian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
So long as two things are recognized:

There are no charges or proof as of this writing. So 'we' don't have anything yet.

The President and all citizens are innocent until proven guilty.
Except Hillary Clinton, of course; lock her up!

In this investigation, IF he were to be charged with anything, the most likely against Donald is obstruction. Of course, that's if no other charges such as money laundering and tax evasion were uncovered.
 
Reactions: camille70
Upvote 0

pat34lee

Messianic
Sep 13, 2011
11,293
2,636
61
Florida, USA
✟89,330.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Single
Upvote 0

Allandavid

Well-Known Member
Dec 30, 2016
8,056
6,929
72
Sydney
✟230,565.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
The government has known about hacking for many years.
Who was President for the prior eight years and FAILED to
do anything about it? Anything at all.
New details of Russia election hacking raise questions about Obama's response

Don’t like Pap’s statement? How about Carter Page then...?

For a year, the Trump campaign leadership has sworn black and blue that there was no contact between the campaign and the Russians.

And now here’s Carter giving testimony about an email sent by him, to the campaign leadership, about his trip to Russia and his discussions with Russian officials, during the time that Trump & Co were swearing that no such contact took place....!

But, but, but of course.....OBAMA..!!!
 
Upvote 0

KCfromNC

Regular Member
Apr 18, 2007
30,256
17,181
✟553,130.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
I'm not aware of how this one has anything whatsoever to do with trump.

He's a Trump campaign representative who took a plea deal rather than being prosecuted for lying about his contacts with Russia during the campaign. OK, so now that you're aware of what this has to do with Trump what's next?
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

DaisyDay

I Did Nothing Wrong!! ~~Team Deep State
Jan 7, 2003
42,654
20,480
Finger Lakes
✟328,859.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Unitarian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Conspiracy gibberish. Sec. Clinton's emails were NOT hacked. Get your basic, checkable facts straight. "Fake Liberal New" is nothing more than tribal slur rhetoric.

"They don't feel they can win with truth, so they must make stuff up and sell it to people like you who eat it." Pure projection.
 
Reactions: Jimmy D
Upvote 0

DaisyDay

I Did Nothing Wrong!! ~~Team Deep State
Jan 7, 2003
42,654
20,480
Finger Lakes
✟328,859.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Unitarian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Upvote 0

Ronald

Exhortations
Site Supporter
Jul 30, 2004
4,620
981
southern
✟111,578.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Most likely her emails were hacked because she had an unsecure site. Are you naïve? Anthem was hacked. Experian was hacked and many others as well. Clinton will go down in history as the most wicked and corrupt politician -- next to her husband. Bonny and Clyde were less criminals then they are -- at least they were honest and didn't lie about it.
 
Upvote 0

Allandavid

Well-Known Member
Dec 30, 2016
8,056
6,929
72
Sydney
✟230,565.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married

And this has what to do with Trump & Co colluding with Russians...?
 
Reactions: DaisyDay
Upvote 0

Almost there

Well-Known Member
Oct 24, 2017
3,571
1,152
61
Kentucky
✟52,042.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
He's a Trump campaign representative who took a plea deal rather than being prosecuted for lying about his contacts with Russia during the campaign. OK, so now that you're aware of what this has to do with Trump what's next?
What has this to do with Trump?
 
Upvote 0

Almost there

Well-Known Member
Oct 24, 2017
3,571
1,152
61
Kentucky
✟52,042.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Why does it surprise you? Greed and cupidity knows no party.
It surprises me because these are usually witch hunts. It would be like Ken Starr catching Republicans. It is odd. But it is also good, because I agree with you.
 
Upvote 0

DaisyDay

I Did Nothing Wrong!! ~~Team Deep State
Jan 7, 2003
42,654
20,480
Finger Lakes
✟328,859.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Unitarian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Most likely her emails were hacked
Her emails were not hacked; the DNC emails were hacked (or phished), but not Clinton's. You should at least get this part right.

because she had an unsecure site.
Her server (did she even have a "site"?) was private, not insecure.

Are you naïve? Anthem was hacked. Experian was hacked and many others as well.
Just because large commercial sites were hacked does not mean that Clinton got hacked. The logic to your position is extremely faulty.

Clinton will go down in history as the most wicked and corrupt politician -- next to her husband. Bonny and Clyde were less criminals then they are -- at least they were honest and didn't lie about it.
Meh, doubtful.
 
Upvote 0

essentialsaltes

Fact-Based Lifeform
Oct 17, 2011
44,170
47,178
Los Angeles Area
✟1,052,790.00
Country
United States
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Legal Union (Other)
Upvote 0

bhsmte

Newbie
Apr 26, 2013
52,761
11,792
✟254,941.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
It surprises me because these are usually witch hunts. It would be like Ken Starr catching Republicans. It is odd. But it is also good, because I agree with you.

When the investigation is complete, would be the time to determine whether it was a witch hunt.
 
Upvote 0

Fantine

Dona Quixote
Site Supporter
Jun 11, 2005
41,909
16,945
Fort Smith
✟1,457,410.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat
If we're lucky the gazillionaire Russian yacht docked by Mar a Lago will spirit away the Trumps to a land with no extradition treaties, and they will be gone for good. There must be a reason why it's,there.
 
Upvote 0