Clearing up misconceptions about evolution

[EmmaXO]

I see a lot of misconceptions and confusion on here. This is pretty basic stuff about evolution.

Introduction to Evolution and Natural Selection - YouTube
Intelligent Design and Evolution - YouTube
Evolution Clarification - YouTube

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[RickG]

Apes have tails?

 

[EmmaXO]

Apes have tails?

I knew someone was going to say that. Well, since there seems to be one or two minor mistakes in the videos, we should throw them out and dismiss all of them as false.

 

[RickG]

I knew someone was going to say that. Well, since there seems to be one or two minor mistakes in the videos, we should throw them out and dismiss all of them as false.

No, I just think when errors are made they need to be pointed out regardless of side of the debate they represent. I'll be glad to help defend the theory of evolution.

 

[EmmaXO]

No, I just think when errors are made they need to be pointed out regardless of side of the debate they represent. I'll be glad to help defend the theory of evolution.

I would also like to point out apes do not wear hats.

 

[SkyWriting]

I see a lot of misconceptions and confusion on here. This is pretty basic stuff about evolution.

And this is basically a text based forum. If you want to find us the a text copy of the script, we can comment on it easier.

On the first video at the 3 minute mark, he is wrong.
It is often said that apes evolved into man.
The theory goes that some population split into differing groups
that we now see as man and other apes.

This is all history and so is not a repeatable experiment, so is not science. "Evolution" has two parts. Parts that are testable and repeatable, the rest just hypotheses and science-fiction about the past.

I usually stop after the first point is wrong.

 

[RickG]

On the first video at the 3 minute mark, he is wrong.
It is often said that apes evolved into man.
The theory goes that some population split into differing groups
that we now see as man and other apes.

Actually man (humans) belong to the biological family, Great Apes (Hominidae).

 

[Memukan]

I would also like to point out apes do not wear hats.

How come we do not see apes morphing into humans today ?

Memukan

 

[SkyWriting]

Actually man (humans) belong to the biological family, Great Apes (Hominidae).

Thanks to the definition that some person created.
We could easily have written up the definition so we did not.

 

[EmmaXO]

How come we do not see apes morphing into humans today ?

Memukan

You're a seeker who believes in creationism?

We did not come from apes. Apes and humans came from a common ancestor.

 

[EmmaXO]

Ape Clarification - YouTube

 

[EmmaXO]

Thanks to the definition that some person created.
We could easily have written up the definition so we did not.

It's not like someone went through going, "I'll put this in a group, and this together, and this." You do not just make up scientific theories willy-nilly as you please. Cells were not "invented". They were always there, we just didn't know about them. It was not invented that the earth revolves around the sun. It was always that way.

Scientists are not emotionally vested in the outcome of their studies and don't have a reason to lie about what they find. This is why creation "science" is not science. Creationists are not looking for answers. They are looking for proof.

 

[AV1611VET]

Apes and humans came from a common ancestor.

Or a Common Designer.

 

[Memukan]

You're a seeker who believes in creationism?

We did not come from apes. Apes and humans came from a common ancestor.

My Faith is in ELOHIM the CREATOR of the Universe and my definition of A Seeker is one who Seeks the TRUTH concerning Yahshua Ha' Masheiac "The very WORD that was used to CREATE all of what you see and all of what you do not see.

My theology is the Gap Theory, but no I do not believe that man and ape have a common ancestor. My belief is what is said by ELOHIM; that HE create man in HIS IMAGE; a Spirit of Light, and when Adam fell,... was clothed in skin, not with animal skins, but with the skin which is our flesh.

Peace,

Memukan

Google image; laminins

 

[EmmaXO]

My Faith is in ELOHIM the CREATOR of the Universe and my definition of A Seeker is one who Seeks the TRUTH concerning Yahshua Ha' Masheiac "The very WORD that was used to CREATE all of what you see and all of what you do not see.

My theology is the Gap Theory, but no I do not believe that man and ape have a common ancestor. My belief is what is said by ELOHIM; that HE create man in HIS IMAGE; a Spirit of Light, and when Adam fell,... was clothed in skin, not with animal skins, but with the skin which is our flesh.

Peace,

Memukan

You may want to change your label to Christian seeker then.

 

[Memukan]

It's not like someone went through going, "I'll put this in a group, and this together, and this." You do not just make up scientific theories willy-nilly as you please. Cells were not "invented". They were always there, we just didn't know about them. It was not invented that the earth revolves around the sun. It was always that way.

Scientists are not emotionally vested in the outcome of their studies and don't have a reason to lie about what they find. This is why creation "science" is not science. Creationists are not looking for answers. They are looking for proof.

Proof is offered up constantly of the Bible being real, In stead of making the Bible agree with science, science must agree with the Bible. The LAW of ELOHIM is PERFECT.
If science does not agree with the Bible, then it is science falsely called and not real science. Scientia is the Latin word for knowledge. What goes by the name science today is not science it is hypotesis. Read mans books on medical science or astro physics, what was written 20 years ago is different than what is written today. TRUTH does not change. Science is wrongly used when it is applied to conjectures, hypotesis, or theories. YAHS WORD is TRUTH. YAH is TRUE KNOWLEDGE.

Memukan a Seeker of Truth
and a Seeker of Knowledge.

 

[CabVet]

And this is basically a text based forum. If you want to find us the a text copy of the script, we can comment on it easier.

On the first video at the 3 minute mark, he is wrong.
It is often said that apes evolved into man.
The theory goes that some population split into differing groups
that we now see as man and other apes.

This is all history and so is not a repeatable experiment, so is not science. "Evolution" has two parts. Parts that are testable and repeatable, the rest just hypotheses and science-fiction about the past.

I usually stop after the first point is wrong.

Good, since the history in the Bible is not repeatable either, I will use this argument next time someone tells me the Bible is "true".

 

[EmmaXO]

Proof is offered up constantly of the Bible being real, In stead of making the Bible agree with science, science must agree with the Bible. The LAW of ELOHIM is PERFECT.
If science does not agree with the Bible, then it is science falsely called and not real science. Scientia is the Latin word for knowledge. What goes by the name science today is not science it is hypotesis. Read mans books on medical science or astro physics, what was written 20 years ago is different than what is written today. TRUTH does not change. Science is wrongly used when it is applied to conjectures, hypotesis, or theories. YAHS WORD is TRUTH. YAH is TRUE KNOWLEDGE.

Memukan a Seeker of Truth
and a Seeker of Knowledge.

The bible was not written by God-it was written by men. If science discovers something that does not agree with the bible, scientists just can't change the findings so they agree. You can't rewrite the universe in way it makes you happy and agrees with what you think the universe encompasses. Science changes because discoveries are made to disprove or add to what we previously thought was the truth.

Do you think the earth revolves around the sun?
Do you think cells exist?
Do you think viruses and bacteria cause illness?
Do you believe in DNA?
Do you believe DNA is a double helix?

Since there was a time no one knew any of this stuff or had different ideas about it, I'm guessing the answer is no, you don't believe any of that stuff. We know that stuff now, and years ago we didn't. Therefore, science is lying and it must be false because truth never changes. We know all of those things to be true now, and we can prove it. Truth doesn't change, but what we consider truth does.

 

[EmmaXO]

I'm sorry if it's a great inconvenience to anyone to watch the videos, but the stuff in this thread is the exact reason I posted them. There's also an article at the bottom, but it's hard to see.

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The second video might especially be of interest. Good grief people.

 

[Memukan]

The bible was not written by God-it was written by men. If science discovers something that does not agree with the bible, scientists just can't change the findings so they agree. You can't rewrite the universe in way it makes you happy and agrees with what you think the universe encompasses. Science changes because discoveries are made to disprove or add to what we previously thought was the truth.

Do you think the earth revolves around the sun?
Do you think cells exist?
Do you think viruses and bacteria cause illness?
Do you believe in DNA?
Do you believe DNA is a double helix?

Since there was a time no one knew any of this stuff or had different ideas about it, I'm guessing the answer is no, you don't believe any of that stuff. We know that stuff now, and years ago we didn't. Therefore, science is lying and it must be false because truth never changes. We know all of those things to be true now, and we can prove it. Truth doesn't change, but what we consider truth does.

GOD is TRUTH and HE does not Change. Did you check out laminins. Yes I believe in DNA, have you taken the time to look at microscopic photos ? My word if these things do not prove to you their is a CREATOR of the Universe.If not then you have far greater faith these things just appeared by themselves. Look at the universe that makes up the human body. The wisdom of man is Foolishness to GOD. Even Einstein believed in GOD.