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cleanliness and purity: a personal issue

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(I'm posting this at another forum as well)

Cleanliness and purity: I have a problem with it, and need some clarity in order to settle the issue.
I will need to expose myself in a way with which I’m rather uncomfortable; nevertheless I feel it is necessary.
This, as you shall see, has to do with other issues with which Im properly dealing as well, so let's concentrate on the issue at hand. I’d also like to say that if you want to avoid reading explicit material or are reading just out of curiosity, please don’t continue.
Well, I recently masturbated viewing internet pornography and touched the computer mouse with the same hand with which I commited the act. Later that day I read an online book and occasionally consulted a dictionary that was sitting at the desk. This, however, I did without cleaning the mouse, which I usually do after I use the computer for the aforementioned sinful act(using water and cleaning products). I later used the same dictionary for reading other books, and now in my mind they are impure and need to be cleaned.
I have in fact cleaned or attemped to clean books before for the same reason, more than one time, as far as approximately one year ago, I think. The problem is that I don't know how to properly do it, it usually rather damages the books and takes too much time. A rather high price to pay for relief, so I'll rather deal with the root of the problem.
I’m trying to read without going through the process of cleaning all the books, but it’s being rather difficult. There is this thought in my mind that I’m commiting a sin and that God is going to punish me for it by making me unable to read. I continue, though, trying to just shrug it off, but I can’t really get rid of the thoughts, and here is why:
I am just not completely sure that things physical are just not impure in the eyes of God anymore. I think of the purity laws in Leviticus and think that there just might be some spiritual rule according to which seminal fluid is impure. This boils down to a lack of a clear theological understanding of the reality of the New Covenant. If I can be sure that it’s all just in my head and that there’s nothing impure with the books, then I will be able to just rebuke these voices in my head in the name of Jesus. Therefore, all I ask for is scriptural insight illuminating this very issue. Thanks.
 

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wow. that's a tough one. but greater is He who is in us than he who is in the world, right??? :clap:

"M" IS sin, because it's impurity. you need to stop that. you might try Setting Captives Free's course "Pure Freedom":

http://www.settingcaptivesfree.com/course/

sin is a doorway that lets the enemy come in. to me it sounds likely that this obsessiveness is probably the influence of the enemy. get rid of the sin, and draw close to God. when we are close to God the enemy will flee. the program i mentioned helps you draw close to God.

i think what is impure with the books, is the association that you have with them and what you did before you touched it... if you feel dirty, well, dirt transfers from dirty hands to whatever you touch. of course, we are speaking of spiritual "dirt", but the association is what makes the books "dirty". sometimes all one can do is get rid of stuff that has that association attached to it. :sigh: i've had to get rid of some stuff for that reason, becuase the association is there everytime i saw them....

realize, that if you have repented of the sin (the big M), you are WASHED CLEAN by the blood of Jesus. CLEAN. but to repent means to turn around and go the other direction. stop the sin, and go towards holiness. easier said than done, of course, but that is wear drawing close to God helps. a person may fall, but the bible says, that IF you sin, you have an advocate - Jesus.

God can definately deliver us from bondages such as this. He truly sets the captives free. ive experienced that myself.

take care.
 
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Most men touch, even Christians hard as it may be to fathom. Cleaning things is a good idea if it is dirty or messy but unless you get 'jizz' on them cleaning probably isn't necessary.

My advice in this area is not to worry about it as you are in good company.
 
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Sounds like the begining of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. The need to be clean. Thoughts about Cleaning that won't go away.

Are you using theology to understand your disorder or are the notions of dirtiness completely theological in their foundation? ie, do you find yourself worried about germs alot too?
 
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Thomas said:
(I'm posting this at another forum as well)

A rather high price to pay for relief, so I'll rather deal with the root of the problem.
Thanks.
your looking at the wrong root of the problem. the real root is the fact the masturbation is wrong. therefore, what happens afterwards will be a nonissue if you address the real problem.
 
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Rage4Christ said:
thomas

Sounds like the begining of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. The need to be clean. Thoughts about Cleaning that won't go away.

Are you using theology to understand your disorder or are the notions of dirtiness completely theological in their foundation? ie, do you find yourself worried about germs alot too?
I would tend to agree with Rage4Christ on this one. It atleast has many similarities to OCD. Though I understand that you are wanting to be right with the Lord, and that's a good thing, I think that this situation may go beyond religion.

You may want to talk to your doctor about this.
 
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