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Loss of sexual sensitivity
feeling wronged by those who were supposed to protect me
feeling less than whole
increased difficulty in masturbation
large visual scar reminder
people in other countries commenting asking why it isn't "natural," just to name some.
I'm curious -- for those men who are angry and/or upset about having been circumcised as a baby, what negative effects have you suffered?
Loss of sexual sensitivity, feeling wronged by those who were supposed to protect me, feeling less than whole, increased difficulty in masturbation, large visual scar reminder, people in other countries commenting asking why it isn't "natural," just to name some.
The US is not a developing country, so why would infant circumcision be necessary there? You have good hygiene overall, as far as I know.
As for aesthetics, most non-American women are satisfied with intact foreskins.
I've got some reasoning. Given the choice I want my foreskin back, but thats impossible.
Man, it's a good thing all those babies having sex are not giving each other STDs.
The difference between being forced to go to church as a child and being circumcised as a child is that you can choose to stop going to church as an adult (and probably even as a teenager), but you can't get your foreskin back.
So why don't you apply this to female circumcision? Sure, they lose out on sexual pleasures, but life isn't fair! It's not like they can't lead normal lives otherwise. The parent just made the decision for them and if they resent or disagree then too bad.
I don't intent to sound cruel but I get the feeling that a lot of the people here arguing against circumcision do so because it wasn't their choice, not because having a foreskin is so important.
This, exactly. I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand this. No, the world isn't ending because I don't have foreskin anymore. No, it doesn't negatively affect me sexually, because I don't have any other frame of reference for comparison. No, my parents didn't slight me, they weren't malicious, nor spiteful. It's MY PENIS(!!) and I should make decisions about a part of my body I place a great deal of value in, myself.
No, it isn't. What real damage has it caused to your life? Did your parents tell you they did it for no good reason?
I have a female friend who was raped, and has since then told me sex is a lot less pleasurable for her and she does not choose to engage in it as often as she did in the past. She still does get pleasure from it to the point of still doing it.Sex isn't pleasurable for you?
Having a foreskin myself, I honestly cannot see how I could go about masturbating without one. For one, without a foreskin masturbation would require a tissue or sock (or whatever, not really sure what other guys use?) whereas with a foreskin this is never an issue.It's difficult to touch? Really?
And yet it happened, and it's nothing you can change. Which is why, to me, it seems like nothing more than pointless whining.
selfinflikted said:This, exactly. I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand this. No, the world isn't ending because I don't have foreskin anymore. No, it doesn't negatively affect me sexually, because I don't have any other frame of reference for comparison. No, my paren't didn't slight me, they weren't malicious, nor spiteful. It's MY PENIS(!!) and I should make decisions about a part of my body I place a great deal of value in, myself.
I'm going to alter my argument slightly: lets' imagine just as an example that it's perfectly natural for some men to be born without foreskins. It's not a deformity, it's just someone you either have or you don't (like having either brown or blue eyes). Would we consider not having a foreskin to be a major disadvantage? Would we demand surgery for these unfortunate people? I doubt it.
I don't intent to sound cruel but I get the feeling that a lot of the people here arguing against circumcision do so because it wasn't their choice, not because having a foreskin is so important.
Having a foreskin myself, I honestly cannot see how I could go about masturbating without one. For one, without a foreskin masturbation would require a tissue or sock (or whatever, not really sure what other guys use?) whereas with a foreskin this is never an issue.
So does the vagina. So should those routinely be removed? And please define "much more likely" and provide data to back that up. I've certainly read that they are more likely, it's that "much" qualifier that I question. Especially in developed nations, where it could be controlled by personal hygiene, which is harmless, as opposed to minor surgery, which is oftentimes not.
I really don't get the STI angle either. If you're circumcised, are you seriously going to say "Welp I don't have to use condoms because my penis is without a foreskin and therefore impervious to disease!"
It's that much different because it's MY PENIS. I was dragged to church as a kid, much like you were. The damage (to my psyche) was not irreparable. The damage (for lack of a better term) done to MY PENIS(!!) is irreparable.
Well, it's not the end of the world, for sure. I just believe that this is a personal choice that should be made for oneself, and not by anyone else
Would you support parents having the right to tattoo their children?
Fair enough - so the debate on the benefits / disadvantages of cut vs. uncut is a bit moot, since there aren't that many differences anyway. It's about choice.
To alter my argument yet again, would we apply this argument to anything other than circumcision? There are many cases where parents choose surgery for their children to remove unsightly birth marks or additional finger or toes (polydactylism). As far as I know there are very few debates on whether this is right or wrong, it's the parent's choice.
Umm, no. COPIOUS amounts of lubrication, maybe. But never anything scratchy, like a sock. OUCH!
Are you saying there is something wrong with your penis? That it doesn't "work"?
Do you feel the same way about vaccines? What about other medical treatment for which the parents feel is best for their child?
But what do you do with the excrete? What do you hold it in?
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