in the lion, the witch and the wardrobe (the movie anyway) when aslan defeats the witch, he turns to peter and says, "it is finished." after watching the movie, i don't know how anyone could doubt that the book is a christian allegory.
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chronicles of narnia (anyone else notice this?)
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Tamara224
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pjw said:
I noticed that...but I don't think that particular part, or any other part, makes the book an allegory. First, because that statement wasn't in the book. Second, if it was meant to be allegory or symbolic, Aslan would have said it right before he died, not after he rose again and defeated the witch. Third, Lewis himself said that the book is not an allegory. Fourth, if it were an allegory, then everything in the book would be symbolic for something in the Bible. Not everything in the book is symbolic...Father Christmas, for example, isn't symbolic for anything.
The book clearly has Christian symbolism and imagery, and Aslan is obviously a 'type' of Christ. But it's not allegory.
BTW, I thought the movie was very good! I'm looking forward to Prince Caspian.
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i haven't read any of the books since i was 9, and i don't really remember them well, but CS Lewis did say the whole book had a Christian message. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1903338,00.htmlI noticed that...but I don't think that particular part, or any other part, makes the book an allegory. First, because that statement wasn't in the book. Second, if it was meant to be allegory or symbolic, Aslan would have said it right before he died, not after he rose again and defeated the witch. Third, Lewis himself said that the book is not an allegory. Fourth, if it were an allegory, then everything in the book would be symbolic for something in the Bible. Not everything in the book is symbolic...Father Christmas, for example, isn't symbolic for anything.
The book clearly has Christian symbolism and imagery, and Aslan is obviously a 'type' of Christ. But it's not allegory.
BTW, I thought the movie was very good! I'm looking forward to Prince Caspian.
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Tamara224
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pjw said:
Yeah...that's what I said...it has Christian symbolism and imagery. It's just not an allegory, it's a supposal. An allegory is often called an extended metaphor... Okay, I'm not going to try to explain it here. If you're at all interested, go to this site:
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-3206.html
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i get it. i watched the movie in a christian bookshop yesterday, and i really liked it, it was very good.i think there's 3 major themes running through the whole thing.
1. edmund is a traitor, and according to the laws, traitors must die. aslan dies in his place, then rises again from the dead, he dies willingly & silently.
2. the struggle between good (aslan and his followers) and evil (the witch and her followers) in the world
3. the inhabitants of narnia who were waiting for the coming of aslan and the fulfillment of the prophecies regarding his coming, and who had not given into the witch.
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Hate to be the nay sayer but even though the story is about the battle between good an evil, I feel the use of spiritualism is not how the message of God should be given. The bible says Gods ways are not mans ways.
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jabechler said:
Hello Jabechler
Might I add that even though you feel the use of spiritualism is not how the message of God should be given, have you seen or heard about the movie The Passion of The Christ? Most people didn't like it (christians even) all because it was too gory (even though the bible tells us that that's how Jesus was treated and how he died). Some don't like Chronicles of Narnia because it misrepresents God and satan. See where I'm going with this?
Either way, any kind of christian movie, most people will find SOMETHING wrong with it and why it's not a good idea to watch. And some even go so far as to use their children as an excuse to back their decision!
But I guarantee you that these very same people watch soap operas and ridiculous tv sitcoms that exploit people's personalities and fears for all to see. And all just for a very slim and lame sum of money that will not last them even 3 months. If they were foolish enough to allow themselves to be abused like that, then that money they win will be gone just as fast as they got on that show, know what I mean? 
Doesn't make much sense, does it?
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pjw said:
Well, C.S. Lewis, anyway, said it wasn't. Of course, he was defining allegory more precisely than would be the people who say that it is. And C.S. Lewis certainly wouldn't deny that his creative imagination was informed by his Christian faith.
Amazingly, though, I can only credit that line in the movie "It is finished" to an amazing act of Providence. The following is from an article in World magazine, and "Mr. Adamson" is the director of the movie.
At the climax of the movie's final battle, Aslan the lion says, "It is finished," a statement nowhere found in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Yet Mr. Adamson seemed surprisingly unaware of the statement's obvious religious imagery. Asked why it was added to the script and whether it was meant as a direct biblical allusion, Mr. Adamson responded: "Not intentionally. I actually honestly didn't know that. The thing I wanted, the thing I was really going for there is for Aslan's sadnessthere's a moment where Aslan and the White Witch stare at each other at the end where they are both accepting their fate. Aslan accepts that he is going to have to kill her; she accepts she is going to be killed. To me, I didn't want to send home the message that war is an ideal solution. I wanted Aslan to regret the fact that he was going to have to kill the White Witch. I wanted a line that he could turn to Peter and really just say, 'it's over,' 'it's done.'"
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