The point is: Jesus can rebuke storms because he is God, right?
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Nothing there indicates that WE regular people can rebuke the weather, right?
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Then its clearly no one believes in him.John 14:12-14 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
That may work if enough people believe, and are truly faithful. You would have to get people whose faith wouldn't be shaken by the incredible hauteur, and hackneyed displays of disdain and sarcasm many people express for Christian faith.
Paganistic thinking is that many gods control the weather. Monotheistic thinking is that there is one true God who controls all things, and the weather is just one small thing. Regardless, I stand by it. The thread is titled "CHRISTIANS, rebuke TS Isaac...", and IMHO would have better fit in the Christians-only area anyway. My desire is that the Lord's will be done through TS/Hurricane Isaac, since there are millions affected/potentially affected, and there is no possible way I could ever fathom and sort through doing what's best for all 20 million of them. That is in God's league, though. If non-Christians don't agree, fine. This is not a sales pitch for God.
Paganistic thinking is that many gods control the weather. Monotheistic thinking is that there is one true God who controls all things, and the weather is just one small thing.
Regardless, I stand by it. The thread is titled "CHRISTIANS, rebuke TS Isaac...", and IMHO would have better fit in the Christians-only area anyway.
My desire is that the Lord's will be done through TS/Hurricane Isaac, since there are millions affected/potentially affected, and there is no possible way I could ever fathom and sort through doing what's best for all 20 million of them. That is in God's league, though.
If non-Christians don't agree, fine. This is not a sales pitch for God.
Paganistic thinking is that many gods control the weather. Monotheistic thinking is that there is one true God who controls all things, and the weather is just one small thing. Regardless, I stand by it. The thread is titled "CHRISTIANS, rebuke TS Isaac...", and IMHO would have better fit in the Christians-only area anyway. My desire is that the Lord's will be done through TS/Hurricane Isaac, since there are millions affected/potentially affected, and there is no possible way I could ever fathom and sort through doing what's best for all 20 million of them. That is in God's league, though. If non-Christians don't agree, fine. This is not a sales pitch for God.
God does not directly control the weather.
I suppose--in the same way that Lee Iacocca did not directly control the assembly lines. But all he has to do is say they stop rolling, and they stop rolling. Now...if Lee Iacocca happens to be your dad, then you have some pull with him. But you still have to respect what he does, because he is dealing with layoffs, market projections, law conformance, internal politics...while you are dealing with tricycles, barbie dolls, and Sega Genesis.
Kinda like that.
I wanted to find fault in such an apparently dubious comparison with the former prez of Chrysler and God, but you actually made a good analogy. Not that I believe in Lee Iacocca mind you.
But it all turned out ok after God won His bet with the devil - Job got a new wife and new children and even more wealth.Job was very faithful, and a holy man of God. He prayed for the well-being and safety of his children before the left for a party on that fateful day, yet they still died. Even though it was not Job's will for any of his children to perish (or to lose any of his wealth, health, or friends,) God's will trumped Job's will. Likewise, many prophets and men of God desperately prayed for ways out of situations - many times in the most extreme form (death by God.) Yet, God had other plans.
But it all turned out ok after God won His bet with the devil - Job got a new wife and new children and even more wealth.
But it all turned out ok after God won His bet with the devil - Job got a new wife and new children and even more wealth.
Sooooo... when your husband and kids are all wiped out in some disaster, it won't matter--everything will turn out ok? Seriously?
Rebuke all you like, Ma Nature really doesn't care. If it's gonna hit, it's gonna hit.People who are in the path of tropical storm Issac should protect their loved ones, their animals and their property by rebuking the storm.
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