Christians and Pagans

[TheKingOfImmortality]

Why dose the Christian religon have alot in commin with Paganism and why the grubge against Pagans anyway?

 

[HypnoToad]

Why dose the Christian religon have alot in commin with Paganism

Because a lot of religions deal with similar issues, so you'd expect to be similarities here and there. And there's many "similarities" that are either completely false, or were taken from Christianity and incorporated into pagan faiths after Christ's time.

and why the gurbge against Pagans anyway?

Why the what? Do you mean "grudge"? If so, what "grudge"?

We believe pagans to hold false beliefs, but that doesn't make it a "grudge".

 

[Stinker]

The Jews might consider us Christians as pagans. Now that would feel really weird to hear that coming from a conservative Jew wouldn't it? Wow!

 

[TheKingOfImmortality]

Because a lot of religions deal with similar issues, so you'd expect to be similarities here and there. And there's many "similarities" that are either completely false, or were taken from Christianity and incorporated into pagan faiths after Christ's time.


Why the what? Do you mean "grudge"? If so, what "grudge"?

We believe pagans to hold false beliefs, but that doesn't make it a "grudge".

Can you back any of those claims that Paganism copyed the Christians religons?

As for the Christians "Grudge" (thank for making fun of me because I cant spell, we all know Jesus would do the same) I would have to say yes, there is a "grudge" against pagans. Many were burned to the stake and I keep hearing christians decalre they are worshiping satan. It sounds like a "grudge" to me.

 

[HypnoToad]

Can you back any of those claims that Paganism copyed the Christians religons?

Well, for one example, some claim one similarity is that Krishna's birth was followed by the king ordering infants to be killed. This detail about Krishna, though, dates only back to the 4th - 6th century AD, well after Christ.

As for the Christians "Grudge" (thank for making fun of me because I cant spell, we all know Jesus would do the same)

???

I never made fun of you - I asked what you meant.

I would have to say yes, there is a "grudge" against pagans. Many were burned to the stake

Christians today don't burn anyone at the stake. Not sure why you want to blame people today.

and I keep hearing christians decalre they are worshiping satan. It sounds like a "grudge" to me.

If a kid keeps saying 2+2=7, the person who corrects him and says, "no, 2+2=4" does not "hold a grudge", he is just speaking the facts and correcting the mistake.

 

[theVirginian]

Many were burned to the stake...

That was centuries ago by a group that was more political than spiritual. It isn't right to identify modern Christians with those times. At the same time, Pagans were sacrificing their babies. Should that be used against the Neo-pagans of today?

...and I keep hearing christians decalre they are worshiping satan.

You don't have to have a pentagram branded into your forehead to worship satan, just do what he wants you to do which, among other things, includes following false religions. The end result will be indirect satan worship. This isn't holding a grudge, it's calling them as we see them.

 

[Adstar]

Why dose the Christian religon have alot in commin with Paganism and why the grubge against Pagans anyway?

Christians are followers of the Messiah Jesus and when Jesus says there is only one way to God and that is via Jesus we believe it. We believe that all other ways no matter how similar do not lead to eternity with God.

Therefore with this in mind you should understand why a Christian would inform you that paganism is a false religion, Instead of seeing it as a sign of a grudge you should see it as a sign of a person who is concerned for you letting you know that danger you are in.

So the person is giving a warning that the path you are on is not the effective path to eternity with God instead of seeing it as condemning of you look upon it as condemning of the belief system you are being deceived by.

Remember that the central reason for a Christian to reveal this information to you is to save you from a path that leads to destruction. So while it may seem to your eyes that you are personally being condemned or that the person giving you the information holds a grudge personally against you the truth is that if that person is a true Christian they are giving you the information out of Love for your eternal state.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

PS: Oh yes there are people who think they are Christians who are only interested in using their religion as a justification to condemn and belittle others. Sadly they do not have the right Spirit towards those who are lost and they do great damage to the Word of God when they show their hate for others. So i understand that sometimes the feelings you may get of being personally hated might in fact be a true indication of the person giving you the message. But you must also know that there are genuine Christians out there who truly are concerned and loving enough to give you the message from that motivation.

 

[heron]

I understand what you mean about the grudge, and I don't think we need to deny that Christians ever do that to pagan practitioners. People do a lot of mean things to each other, including grudges the other direction.

Many Christians have been burnt at the stake too... shot.. tortured... religion is often seen as a threat to certain political orders and centers of power. But people of true faith --no matter what religion -- are not usually the ones doing the torturing.

Most contemporary pagans I have met were your age and slightly younger, brought up in the church, and raised by Christian parents (of varying levels of faith). That would put them in a position of criticism by peers and family... mostly confusion and questions about how they came to that way of thinking.

As for borrowing from one religion to the next.... it's just an odd question. We are spiritual beings. There will be similar tendencies across any cultural group.

I also believe that, in being spiritually sensitive beings, we are able to sense that there are powers surrounding us that we can't see. We have observations and experiences that lead us to form similar conclusions.

For instance, people of all cultures hear voices that lead them to destructive acts.

People of all cultures pray to a source outside themselves.

People of all cultures see courtesy and thoughtfulness as good traits, and theft-deception-oppression as bad traits.

As for similar events -- if there is a comet in the sky, who will write about it? Only the people who saw it sit over Bethlehem? (Comet...planet alignment.. whatever.) The experience was fairly global.

JudeoChristianity is very firm about holding theology to original documents. I don't think that borrowing from other religions happens when they are keeping the faith in its purest form. When they rebel, that's when the golden calves and mountain temples start popping up.

Sure, people borrow. People read and discuss and learn from each other. Governments have been known to promote the blending of religious practices in order to control or keep people at peace. But I don't think similar practices is any reason for religions to compete.

Faith is an inner conviction, and God is a source of strength and help.

 

[heron]

All the firstborn were ordered to be killed when Moses was born, too. That is just a sign of a horrid despot. I wonder sometimes how Moses lived in the same house with the guy.

 

[Stinker]

Another great (may have been morally bad though) leader had the same infant experience that Moses is written to have had: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargon_the_Great

Maybe many people mistakenly think that because there are many similar experiences between Pagans and (Jews-Christians) that they just borrowed from each other. That in reality neither is any more valid than the other. This should definitely not be. Just reading Pagan writings and (Jew-Christian) and comparing the two, the difference is is very revealing. The (Jew-Christian) writings are far more believable.

 

[heron]

Sargon -- what is it with these emperors? It seems to be a sign of too many people to rule over -- losing one's sense of value for human life.

Is there a world ruler that didn't kill babies? Sorry, I'm off topic.