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Christianity as a philosophical system?

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It would also include "why" did God do it, and more.

It is very very difficult to make up one, particularly a complete one.
It isn’t difficult to make up an answer to that question. You did it in the very next post when you said this:

It may be philosophical, but it is also entirely made up and entirely worthless except to quell people’s fear of uncertainty. There isn’t a shred of sound evidence to support it. The only thing emptier than empty here is your so-called explanation.
 
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Jevunissun (quote) “If I suggested that Christianity is a perfect philosophical system, how would you argue against it?"


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I would argue that not only is Christianity not the perfect philosophical system, but that Christianity can often be the opposite of philosophy.
Philosophy is often about questions that cannot be answered; Christianity is often about answers that cannot be questioned

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Because you haven't answered the question, and you can't. The Bible specifically says that you can't - it says that God in unknowable, and so Christianity cannot be complete. It's like saying "I know every letter in the alaphabet apart from the 17th" - that's not the complete alphabet.

Without knowledge of the purpose of the universe, you cannot have a complete philosophy. Philosophies generally don't try to be complete, because it's obvious that you can't know everything, but if you're going to actually make the claim that Christianity is, you have to know everything about God. Furthermore, as God is infinite, Christianity has basically set itself up to never be complete. It's simply not possible. Christianity doesn't make the claim that it is a complete philosophy for a reason - it can't be.
 
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Is a theological system also a philosophical system? why not?

Yes it can be, but Christianity isn't theology. Theology is something tacked on to Christianity in the form of Apologetics. We can discuss Augustinanity or Aquinasanity, but those are simply Augustine's or Aquinas's attempts to defend Christianity, and not Christianity itself. They didn't add more Holy Scriptures.


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I reckon perfect truth is indeed a perfect philosophical system.
 
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What are you going to do with it?
To tell from the thread so far you are likely to tell me that Christianity does answers the question to your satisfaction.

Either I will try to help you to solve you question, or I will try to modify my recognition to Christianity.
 
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So according to you, Christianity is not equal to Christian Theology.

Fine. Now, is Christian Theology a philosophical system?

If yes, then you may start to reply my OP with that modification.
If not, why not?
 
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Now, is Christian Theology a philosophical system?

No, it's a set of philosophical systems. Aquinas =/= Augustine, for instance.

So, which philosophical system do you mean when you refer to Christian Theology? I don't have any clear idea of what set of ideas you are referring to. Perhaps you could provide an outline of that system.


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Just my 2 cents here:

1) Christianity does not satisfactorally answer the problem of evil.

2) Christianity does not satisfactorally resolve the paradox of human free will and a totally sovereign God.

3) Christianity has never fully resolved the conflict between Arminianism and Calvinism (which is somewhat a corollary of #2. And IMO, this is a major issue that goes directly to the heart of Christian belief, and not simply a minor denominational divergence.)

4) Christianity has never fully resolved the conflict between salvation by faith alone, and the role of good works.

5) Christianity has never resolved the conflict between the OT and NT regarding observing the Mosaic law.

Anyone is entitled to believe that the usual apologetics are full and sufficient. But they've never provided coherent answers to my satisfaction. Actually, no religious faith I know of has any doctrine I'd call perfect, and certainly not Christianity. But maybe someone can convince me otherwise.
 
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I, a faithful Christian, question Christianity all the time.
 
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Yes, if a question is fundamental or not could be interpreted. But it is a question anyway. And to some people like me, the origin questions is very important.

Zen is beautiful. I like it at lot. But, it does not answer some of my "basic" questions. How would you answer the question which asks what is the purpose of this life according to Zen?
 
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If my future is not known, what would guide my behavior now? How do I determine what is "good"? And why should I be "good"?
 
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In Christianity, we do not know the whole truth. But we obtained enough guide to seek the truth. In the seeking process, debating is a good practice. The perfection of Christianity is that it sets up a perfect framework of the whole system from the beginning to the end. And it allows individuals to fill up the framework with personal development. In the debate of Christianity among Christians, there is no lose or win, it only has win and win.
 
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The origin questions have to be fundamental in any philosophical thought. That is about the beginning of anything. It IS fundamental no matter how do you look at it.

Yes, there are answers (in the Christian Scripture) to all your questions asked about Christianity. It does not matter if you agree with them or not, the answers are there. If you like to get into it, pick one and we can talk about it briefly.
 
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Christianity, like (nearly) every religion, is not just a theology, it is a tool of statecraft and a very profitable business.


I think you are saying that it IS a theology. That is good enough.
 
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Like I said, the only extra axiom needed in theology to be conformed with traditional philosophy is that "God exists". The rest would be all philosophical. Yes, the consequence of that single extra axiom is that it produces a sole authority.
 
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