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Christianity... and the fact of evolution

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Moses did not write of the TOE because it is not the way it happened. It is not truth. It is Satan's lie and it is deceiving the elect.

if that makes you happy....but you do not get to dictate to others.
 
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Why do you reduce the sovereign of the universe to a man. Who are you to say that? Stop looking with human, limited eyes.
 
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What is the point of all life and creation, and why did God create us?
 
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What is the point of all life and creation, and why did God create us?

And that is the unanswerable question. All the Judeo-Christian answers are unsatisfactory on a heart and head level.
 
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Do you believe in heresy? Are there opinions and beliefs so far out
that they cannot be accepted under the umbrella of God fearer or
Christian? I'm not asking in regard to anyone or any ideas presented
in this forum. Just if you take your statement at face value, anything
is acceptable, which turns all scripture on its head.
 
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And that is the unanswerable question. All the Judeo-Christian answers are unsatisfactory on a heart and head level.

Only if you believe in time and chance and evolution.
That is why the world has no hope for the future.
 
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Only if you believe in time and chance and evolution.
That is why the world has no hope for the future.

It must be hell to live in such a mood. I have great hope for the future...eventually there will come a time when rationality will guide mankind and the senseless, bigoted divisions among men will end. I look forward to that day!
 
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It must be hell to live in such a mood. I have great hope for the future...eventually there will come a time when rationality will guide mankind and the senseless, bigoted divisions among men will end. I look forward to that day!
Just like we see in all of the great Atheistic states of the world, wow what a nice world we will live in ;-)
 
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Just like we see in all of the great Atheistic states of the world, wow what a nice world we will live in ;-)

What a cute rebuttal..."I know you are but what am I"....do you have anything substantive to say?
 
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Have you ever watched a 'thriller' and been sure that you KNOW who is the guilty party , only to find yourself completely in the wrong ? It is like that with so called evolution .There seem to be a lot of clues pointing there, but you just have 'missed the most important ones ,but then christians have missed many things too, believed
by early christians ,and dismissed by later hierarchies which fill in the gaps .
 
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That is not the way scientific research works.
 
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What a cute rebuttal..."I know you are but what am I"....do you have anything substantive to say?
There is no hope for humanity in Godless evolutionary philosophy. The world of evolution is blind, pitiless and indifferent.
 
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There is no hope for humanity in Godless evolutionary philosophy. The world of evolution is blind, pitiless and indifferent.

And Christian "agape" love is just so easily identified...

When are people going to realize that if they're going to claim Christ, they'd better learn the lesson of LOVE? As evidenced on this forum, they haven't learned yet. Therefore there is virtually no reason to identify with such a group of people.
 
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When's that going to happen?
When You and I choose it to happen. At the moment, collectively, we look a bit like this all limp wristed and mostly disinterested:
 
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If it is ever 'final' then we could call it dogma.
 
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I am far from "disinterested". However, I cannot identify with a group that is so hateful, bigoted and hypocritical. They claim to follow one who said "love one another..." yet they continuously speak hateful and ugly words, followed by hateful and ugly actions against those who need that love the most. Those of us who choose to not follow that path are similarly derided and called names and yes, even attacked for what we believe in so strongly.

The 'experts' wonder why people are walking away from "organized" religion, especially Christianity, and why the young are leaving in droves...it's really very easy. if your words and actions don't match what you claim to believe there's only a couple of conclusions to draw...first...your beliefs are really that ugly or two, you're a liar. Either way, the thought of attaching oneself to those groups becomes repulsive for those who wish to follow a higher path.

So...who is at fault for those who turn away?
 
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Perhaps you are correct in respect of a group of people.
The temple that is being built looks like a jumble of broken rock for the most part. But the first step towards identification with the Cornerstone is our orientation towards Him. So looking towards Him and claiming Him as our hope is in itself a lesson in Agape.
This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. (1 John 4)
 
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You're not questioning my personal beliefs? Boy, you're good at the mental gymnastics.

Interestingly, though, Jesus never taught evolution.
No, he taught "love one another as I have loved you"...


And you're not questioning my faith?

As to the rest...when did you get appointed arbiter of belief? You didn't? Then deal with the fact that people have other beliefs and opinions that can be better defended than most of the "Christian" arguments given here.
 
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