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<blockquote data-quote="Halbhh" data-source="post: 76389212" data-attributes="member: 375234"><p>2 aspects here that you would want to know.</p><p></p><p>When someone you are with side by side with extensive communication over time is supposed to be Christian and you don't even know whether they are Christians after 10 years (or even 2-3 months for that matter if you are around them a lot, dozens of hours already) would be pretty dangerous for that person on the day of final disposition after this life, where Christ said that for those who are unwilling to be recognized as His that He in turn would be unwilling to recognize them as His (as we hear Him say to us in the gospel of Mark, 8:38, and in Luke 9:26). Christians aren't (all) required to constantly evangelize, but also they will openly let themselves be known to believe and follow Christ (if they do).</p><p></p><p>(And, also by the way, the joyous welcome of new converts <em>does </em>happen in some churches -- I've seen that with my own eyes, so it's fact.)</p><p></p><p>But, here's the <em>other </em>aspect that will help you see what has been the way in the U.S. at least (and many nations) --> <em>Christians</em> have for centuries been in the <em>overwhelming majority</em>...<em>and Muslims largely absent and/or being a very small minority (e.g. under 10% for example) from many of those nations until very recently </em>--</p><p></p><p>So that has a couple of natural consequences you will instantly see once pointed out.</p><p></p><p>First, that Christians that grew up surrounded by other Christians would not be in the habit of evangelizing immediately around themselves traditionally in those nations back when <em>almost everyone was putatively Christian</em> and attended churches (that's within our lifetimes for many of us, back in the 1960s still generally the case), and 2nd, that Muslims would be the exact opposite of course: a tiny minority seeking to bring more into their fold.</p><p></p><p>And one more aspect: when most everyone is putatively Christian, but in reality Christ said that only "few" would really follow Him, then that means that many are in a church (in the case when overwhelming majorities of the population attends) <em>without fully believing,</em> because it's the majority culture of that time and place.</p><p></p><p>See?</p><p></p><p>And that won't entirely disappear of course even when there is a shift, so long as the generations when that was the case are still alive: many of them would certainty continue to attend a church as their social hub, even without faith.</p><p></p><p>But, of course, just as you'd guess when thinking about it, for the smaller portion that does fully believe, they welcome the stranger very warmly and celebrate when someone comes to faith.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Halbhh, post: 76389212, member: 375234"] 2 aspects here that you would want to know. When someone you are with side by side with extensive communication over time is supposed to be Christian and you don't even know whether they are Christians after 10 years (or even 2-3 months for that matter if you are around them a lot, dozens of hours already) would be pretty dangerous for that person on the day of final disposition after this life, where Christ said that for those who are unwilling to be recognized as His that He in turn would be unwilling to recognize them as His (as we hear Him say to us in the gospel of Mark, 8:38, and in Luke 9:26). Christians aren't (all) required to constantly evangelize, but also they will openly let themselves be known to believe and follow Christ (if they do). (And, also by the way, the joyous welcome of new converts [I]does [/I]happen in some churches -- I've seen that with my own eyes, so it's fact.) But, here's the [I]other [/I]aspect that will help you see what has been the way in the U.S. at least (and many nations) --> [I]Christians[/I] have for centuries been in the [I]overwhelming majority[/I]...[I]and Muslims largely absent and/or being a very small minority (e.g. under 10% for example) from many of those nations until very recently [/I]-- So that has a couple of natural consequences you will instantly see once pointed out. First, that Christians that grew up surrounded by other Christians would not be in the habit of evangelizing immediately around themselves traditionally in those nations back when [I]almost everyone was putatively Christian[/I] and attended churches (that's within our lifetimes for many of us, back in the 1960s still generally the case), and 2nd, that Muslims would be the exact opposite of course: a tiny minority seeking to bring more into their fold. And one more aspect: when most everyone is putatively Christian, but in reality Christ said that only "few" would really follow Him, then that means that many are in a church (in the case when overwhelming majorities of the population attends) [I]without fully believing,[/I] because it's the majority culture of that time and place. See? And that won't entirely disappear of course even when there is a shift, so long as the generations when that was the case are still alive: many of them would certainty continue to attend a church as their social hub, even without faith. But, of course, just as you'd guess when thinking about it, for the smaller portion that does fully believe, they welcome the stranger very warmly and celebrate when someone comes to faith. [/QUOTE]
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