Christian Bashing in the Media

I am with you on that one, TonyL! So glad you spoke out about this here, because we can all pray together - and that is powerful.

I completely agree!!!

We should pray for those in the media, as you say. I'm sure there are a few Christians here and there in that line of work, but probably not much they can do about the situation. Sometimes I wonder if the news people say things out of ignorance, or simply what they are told to say.

I cringe whenever I'm watching a TV program or a movie and they bring a Christian into it. I just know they are going to make a fool out of the Christian.

*Yawn*

Persecution complex. Have fun with that guys.

TonyL said:

Are you just being glib or do you really feel that there ISN'T Christian bashing going on in the media?

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I believe it is... I also see ambivilance towards it. BUT God forbid if you eat meat or wear fur (the latter grosses me out) BUt those things do take presidence over people of faith being bashed. UNLESS of course you are muslim... then riots ensue and people die.
What kind of gets me... is the *ho-hum* attitude of "oh well if you don't like it..." Well... I for one don't like it. I will turn the other cheek but I will also fight on my knees.
But I also believe it will get worse before it gets better.
Especially when things like ethnic cleansing or attacks on Christians or our jewish brothers and sisters are the commonplace.

I have had maybe 3 hours sleep so hopefully this made sense.

Are you just being glib or do you really feel that there ISN'T Christian bashing going on in the media?

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I feel that any vocal group in this world is going to be made fun of. Get over it.

Slightly off my own topic but have you noticed that the ACLU (Anit-Christian Liberals Union) will defend any whacky cult that pops up but time after time goes after Christians? Up here in the desert we have a large stone cross that was put up many years ago. The ACLU had brought suit to have it taken down because some people find if offencive. I find satanist music ads on bill boards and near porn ads for "dating services" on other billboards offencive too but the ACLU defends their right of free speech. Crazy....

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ACLU has defended Christians:
September 20, 2005: ACLU of New Jersey joins lawsuit supporting second-grader's right to sing "Awesome God" at a talent show.
August 4, 2005: ACLU helps free a New Mexico street preacher from prison.
May 25, 2005: ACLU sues Wisconsin prison on behalf of a Muslim woman who was forced to remove her headscarf in front of male guards and prisoners.
February 2005: ACLU of Pennsylvania successfully defends the right of an African American Evangelical church to occupy a church building purchased in a predominantly white parish.
December 22, 2004: ACLU of New Jersey successfully defends right of religious expression by jurors.
December 14, 2004: ACLU joins Pennsylvania parents in filing first-ever challenge to "Intelligent Design" instruction in public schools.
November 20, 2004: ACLU of Nevada supports free speech rights of evangelists to preach on the sidewalks of the strip in Las Vegas.
November 12, 2004: ACLU of Georgia files a lawsuit on behalf of parents challenging evolution disclaimers in science textbooks.
November 9, 2004: ACLU of Nevada defends a Mormon student who was suspended after wearing a T-shirt with a religious message to school.
August 11, 2004: ACLU of Nebraska defends church facing eviction by the city of Lincoln.
July 10, 2004: Indiana Civil Liberties Union defends the rights of a Baptist minister to preach his message on public streets.
June 9, 2004: ACLU of Nebraska files a lawsuit on behalf of a Muslim woman barred from a public pool because she refused to wear a swimsuit.
June 3, 2004: Under pressure from the ACLU of Virginia, officials agree not to prohibit baptisms on public property in Falmouth Waterside Park in Stafford County.
May 11, 2004: After ACLU of Michigan intervened on behalf of a Christian Valedictorian, a public high school agrees to stop censoring religious yearbook entries.
March 25, 2004: ACLU of Washington defends an Evangelical minister's right to preach on sidewalks.
February 21, 2003: ACLU of Massachusetts defends students punished for distributing candy canes with religious messages.
October 28, 2002: ACLU of Pennsylvania files discrimination lawsuit over denial of zoning permit for African American Baptist church.
July 11, 2002: ACLU supports right of Iowa students to distribute Christian literature at school.
April 17, 2002: In a victory for the Rev. Jerry Falwell and the ACLU of Virginia, a federal judge strikes down a provision of the Virginia Constitution that bans religious organizations from incorporating.
January 18, 2002: ACLU defends Christian church's right to run "anti-Santa" ads in Boston subways.
-www.aclu.org

True, they have. But they also back some of the weirdest stuff around.

As for yor "get over it" attitude and feeling that others should be made fun of. Well, you'r young yet...

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I never said they should be made fun of. I said the shouldn't expect not to be made fun of. But go ahead, play the age card. You've got nothing else.

15 is a great age for insecurity. I know. you know everything and you take yourself VERY seriously because nobody around you does. That's why you make fun of other people, get them befor they get you, eh? Makes you feel you have some control by putting down others because you know that you don't quite measure up yourself.

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Actually, I rarely make fun of other people hatefully. I've been made fun of in that way all of my life.
When I do poke fun at people I make it a point to be nice in my humor and to also make fun of myself.
Question - Does it make you feel like you are more correct in your beliefs when they are a parodied? Does that make you feel as though it is an us-against-them scenario?

cobaltburrito said:

I never said they should be made fun of. I said the shouldn't expect not to be made fun of. But go ahead, play the age card. You've got nothing else.

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Ok I think that there is a missing piece here or something... The bible tells us that we will be persecuted... that we will face "christian-bashing" ...I can live with that.

But, the thing that is most bothersome about it... is people like the Dalai Lama... The muslim clerics and ayatollas... people of other faiths do not experience the same type of bashing...

If we bashed Tom Cruise for his wacko ideas we would be considered "intolerant"

But, intolerance is on both side of the fence. The people who scream intolerance the loudest are the ones who are intolerant of Christianity and don't care of the hypocrisy in their christian bashing that bothers me.

Granted Christians in their legalism have caused wedges and brought some I repeat some of it on themselves...... But isn't this EXACTLY what muslims take to the extreme? To them anyone who is NON Islam, is an infidel and worthy of death... But hollywood is using it's celebrity and money to come against christianity... I say if they are going to do this... then spread the wealth around... persecute ALL faiths... Kabbalah... Islam... LDS ... Catholic... Buddhists...Bahai... But the sticking to Christianity to bash as the root of all evil is getting a little *sigh* boring.

This is a great thread. Thanks for starting it TonyL

I echo the views of both you Tony and vegasXtian in the fact that it's seemingly ok for media to bash Christianity, but God forbid a Christian disagree publicly with a belief like Scientology, Atheism, etc. We as Christians suddenly become ignorant with hidden agendas, but we'll get sued for slander if we brought up anything contrary to what they believe.

I feel very sad for the direction in which this world is going. Public schools being attacked for the pledge of allegiance and no prayer being allowed, the cross in CA which is being forced to be removed, etc. All of these things leave my heart feeling very burdened and heavy for these precious souls. Like you mentioned Tony, we do need to pray for these people. I don't feel any hate towards them, because we shouldn't. I don't pity them because they have their own free will. I also respect their opinions and beliefs, because bashing them in return really doesn't solve or progress in to anything productive. I just have a problem with the fact that we aren't allowed to have "free speech" with serious repercussions while somehow "they" are.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that this nation was founded on the belief of God. To look back and see how much this nation has regressed, and continually gotten worse for crimes of all sorts, more and more troubled kids with higher drop-out rates, severe poverty, etc. deeply troubles me. It just goes to show that Satan is working over-time in so many lives.

Hope this made sense. I am currently sick, and am quite tired God bless all of you!

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Granted Christians in their legalism have caused wedges and brought some I repeat some of it on themselves...... But isn't this EXACTLY what muslims take to the extreme? To them anyone who is NON Islam, is an infidel and worthy of death... But hollywood is using it's celebrity and money to come against christianity... I say if they are going to do this... then spread the wealth around... persecute ALL faiths... Kabbalah... Islam... LDS ... Catholic... Buddhists...Bahai... But the sticking to Christianity to bash as the root of all evil is getting a little *sigh* boring.

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I completly agree with what I've highlighted in bold I think what Christians tend to forget sometimes is that the message we send out of hell fire and brimstone really does not reach people whatsoever. It just makes them that much more offended at Christianity. I can say this from experience because I was raised as a "preacher's kid" and for many years I rebelled against the faith. The ultimate message is that of love and acceptance, just as Christ would have been if he still walked this earth. It breaks my heart to see so much condemnation going on. Who are we to condemn? I'm certainly not perfect, and I'd never even attempt to mislead someone in to thinking so. Hence the reason I can reach out in love and say, "I understand where you're at."

I also agree with what you've said about celebrities and their money in Hollywood. People are obsessed with fame, money, etc. and when they see an image of a celebrity (who are far too idolized in today's world), they say to themselves, "Oh I want that!" This is the message they're sending out too -- that they can have all of this. It's sad really. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against wealth and fame. I just have a problem with the way some people choose to obtain it. (Hope that made sense and came out the right way) That's why I'm thankful for genuine Christian television programs that are able to reach the population like these celebrities do with their strange ideas of religion and God. The truth will always prevail.