Christian and a Homosexual?"

[savedfromdistruction]

There is no question that the Bible condemns homosexual behavior in both the Old and the New Testaments. Let's look at two examples:

"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, not idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, shall inherit the kingdom of God" (I Corinthians 6:9-10).

A Christian is a person who lives in obedience to the teachings of Jesus Christ, regardless of the personal sacrifice, recognizing Christ's teachings to be ultimate truth. Such obedience is made possible when a person is "born again" as a result of faith in what Christ did on His cross to redeem sinful man. After being born again, a person is enabled to abandon all things which God declares to be sinful. As proof of his faith, a true Christian will no longer live in a state of continual sin. He will no longer be a slave to sin and he will turn from and give up all evil ways. Though a Christian may struggle with sin and temptation in different forms, he will no longer live a lifestyle which is contrary to God's Word. This is clear in the following passage:

"No one who is born of God practices sin, because (Christ's) seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother" (I John 3:9-10).

No one can be a Christian and remain a practicing homosexual - it is a direct contradiction of God's Word. Homosexual activity is always a choice and sin! The very nature of Christianity is that it transforms people to live like Jesus Christ.

 

[davedjy]

1) Wrong Forum

2) There is not one same sex relationship or homosexuality as one's sexual constitution condemned in Scriptures

3)The old Leviticus laws do not count for anything anymore, and that was a ritual/ceremonial/pagan violation. Abomination=ritual/ceremonial impurity

4)Get to know the facts:

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

5) homosexuality itself was not being condemned in Romans 1, it was malicious, horrible murderers and idolaters.

 

[Bianca87]

There is no question that the Bible condemns homosexual behavior in both the Old and the New Testaments. Let's look at two examples:

"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, not idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, shall inherit the kingdom of God" (I Corinthians 6:9-10).

A Christian is a person who lives in obedience to the teachings of Jesus Christ, regardless of the personal sacrifice, recognizing Christ's teachings to be ultimate truth. Such obedience is made possible when a person is "born again" as a result of faith in what Christ did on His cross to redeem sinful man. After being born again, a person is enabled to abandon all things which God declares to be sinful. As proof of his faith, a true Christian will no longer live in a state of continual sin. He will no longer be a slave to sin and he will turn from and give up all evil ways. Though a Christian may struggle with sin and temptation in different forms, he will no longer live a lifestyle which is contrary to God's Word. This is clear in the following passage:

"No one who is born of God practices sin, because (Christ's) seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother" (I John 3:9-10).

No one can be a Christian and remain a practicing homosexual - it is a direct contradiction of God's Word. Homosexual activity is always a choice and sin! The very nature of Christianity is that it transforms people to live like Jesus Christ.

I'd say "no one can be a literalist and remain practicing homosexual behavior"
besides, this one goes in "debates on homosexuality", mate.

 

[savedfromdistruction]

hello dave,
actually you are incorrect. Corinthians deals with it clearly as well as Gal and Rev. and Romans. The fact that someone denies truuth only proves the bible.

1) Wrong Forum

2) There is not one same sex relationship or homosexuality as one's sexual constitution condemned in Scriptures

3)The old Leviticus laws do not count for anything anymore, and that was a ritual/ceremonial/pagan violation. Abomination=ritual/ceremonial impurity

4)Get to know the facts:

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

5) homosexuality itself was not being condemned in Romans 1, it was malicious, horrible murderers and idolaters.

 

[invisible trousers]

Why aren't you ragging on christians who practice the abominations of cutting their hair, mixing different fabrics, and eating shellfish?

 

[davedjy]

hello dave,
actually you are incorrect. Corinthians deals with it clearly as well as Gal and Rev. and Romans. The fact that someone denies truuth only proves the bible.

Corinthians is a false translation, get to know the facts:

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

 

[savedfromdistruction]

Actually that would be incorrect. The bible as we have it today is accurate and has been proven over and over again. I even gave the greek to show its accuracy. I wish you well, but if you want eternal life you have to repent.

Corinthians is a false translation, get to know the facts:

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

 

[MikeMcK]

Why aren't you ragging on christians who practice the abominations of cutting their hair, mixing different fabrics, and eating shellfish?

Because those things were commandments to the Israelites under the Old Covenant. We are the church under the New Covenant.

 

[davedjy]

Actually that would be incorrect. The bible as we have it today is accurate and has been proven over and over again. I even gave the greek to show its accuracy. I wish you well, but if you want eternal life you have to repent.

There is no such thing as eternal hell torment either looking at the Greek...

 

[MikeMcK]

Christians who are homosexuals?

Hmmm...How about:

Christians who are thieves.

Christians who are adulterers.

Christians who are drunkards.

Christians who are blasphemers.

Christians who are liars.

Doesn't really work, does it?

Of course not. We can call ourselves Christians all we like, but the Bible tells us that if we continue on in a lifestyle of deliberate, unrepentant sin, that we're not Christians at all.

Likewise, homosexuals can call themselves Christians, but the fact that they reject God's word, the fact that they love their sin too much to consider giving it up, and the fact that their hearts are so hard to the leading and conviction of the Holy Spirit is a very bad sign.

 

[davedjy]

Hmmm...How about:

Christians who are thieves.

Christians who are adulterers.

Christians who are drunkards.

Christians who are blasphemers.

Christians who are liars.

Doesn't really work, does it?

Of course not. We can call ourselves Christians all we like, but the Bible tells us that if we continue on in a lifestyle of deliberate, unrepentant sin, that we're not Christians at all.

Likewise, homosexuals can call themselves Christians, but the fact that they reject God's word, the fact that they love their sin too much to consider giving it up, and the fact that their hearts are so hard to the leading and conviction of the Holy Spirit is a very bad sign.

Reject God's Word? Maybe the way you are being deceived on this subject believing myths and traditions FOUNDED ON LIES!

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

 

[MikeMcK]

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

I went to the link. Been a while since something made me laugh that hard.

I especially like the line where he declared himself incapable of misinterpreting the scriptures, just before he proceeded to completely butcher the scriptures.

 

[davedjy]

I went to the link. Been a while since something made me laugh that hard.

I especially like the line where he declared himself incapable of misinterpreting the scriptures, just before he proceeded to completely butcher the scriptures.

You have yet to disprove even one myth on there.

Try again. Next!

 

[MikeMcK]

You have yet to disprove even one myth on there.

Try again. Next!

Many years ago, there was a homeless man who stood at the gate to the Market El at 8th and Market, who believed he was Admiral Halsey.

I never disproved his claims, either.

Honestly? There's no need to prove or disprove anything.

Those who know the Bible will continue to laugh and his essay and those who love their sin more than they love God will continue to believe it.

In the words of President Bush:

"The world's gonna keep on turnin'. What's for supper?"

 

[davedjy]

Many years ago, there was a homeless man who stood at the gate to the Market El at 8th and Market, who believed he was Admiral Halsey.

I never disproved his claims, either.

Honestly? There's no need to prove or disprove anything.

Those who know the Bible will continue to laugh and his essay and those who love their sin more than they love God will continue to believe it.

In the words of President Bush:

"The world's gonna keep on turnin'. What's for supper?"

Keep believing myths. Maybe you are rejecting your own sexuality.

 

[MikeMcK]

Keep believing myths.

OK. I will take the "myth" of God's word over the "truth" of yours any day.

Maybe you are rejecting your own sexuality.

I'll let my wife be the judge of that.

 

[SwordOfGod]

After being born again, a person is enabled to abandon all things which God declares to be sinful.

Oh yes, I remember how alcoholics no longer had a problem after they were saved...

I also remember how Paul's thorn was so easy to remove...

I am of course being sarcastic, however, this "get saved and the problem goes away" view point is going to hurt alot of new christians.