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Christian anarchy
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So then why does the Bible tell us that God has placed governments in authority over us and that we are to be subject to them?
Even Jesus taught that honor should be given to Ceasar where honor is due.
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Magisterium
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That's so funny! I know this principle but where I'm from , we call that Protestantism.... 
Oh boy, that's gonna catch some heat... better get my game face on
But really, I'm just kidding....
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Oh boy, that's gonna catch some heat... better get my game face on
But really, I'm just kidding....
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fragmentsofdreams
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We need governments because nobody acts non-violently and christ-like at all times. If everyone expects everyone else to always act like what they consider perfectly, and then they don't, we get witch burnings.
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Doesn't the Bible say you should follow Earthly law as well as God's laws?¿?
So then wouldn't Christan Anarchy be a contadiction to God's laws and the Bible?¿?
So then wouldn't Christan Anarchy be a contadiction to God's laws and the Bible?¿?
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fragmentsofdreams
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It does not say that Christians cannot petition the government or that Christians cannot use democracy to limit the government.Elrond52 said:
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challenger said:
So then, like I asked you before but you ignored, why did God ordain government? Why does the Bible tell us that He put rulers and "hierarchical" authority in place and command us to be subject to them?
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Well, I practically tore my Bible apart looking for the passage, didn't find it so I'll have to wing it.
Somewhere in the Old Testament the line, "In those days in Israel, there was no king, and each man did what seemeth good unto him." But after time, the people became unsatisfied and asked Jehovah to appoint a king to rule over them. Grudgingly, Jehovah gave in and set rulers over Israel, which were selected by his prophets. Of course, in the books of Kings, we learn how the kings thus selected are always leading the nation in sin, whoring after other gods, and burning incense in the high places. By this, I think it's a safe bet that Jehovah would prefer we all lived in an anarchy.
Sorry I couldn't find the actual verses, maybe someone else could help me with that?
Somewhere in the Old Testament the line, "In those days in Israel, there was no king, and each man did what seemeth good unto him." But after time, the people became unsatisfied and asked Jehovah to appoint a king to rule over them. Grudgingly, Jehovah gave in and set rulers over Israel, which were selected by his prophets. Of course, in the books of Kings, we learn how the kings thus selected are always leading the nation in sin, whoring after other gods, and burning incense in the high places. By this, I think it's a safe bet that Jehovah would prefer we all lived in an anarchy.
Sorry I couldn't find the actual verses, maybe someone else could help me with that?
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challenger said:
But you're the one who brought it up.
If you're going to start a thread about "Christian" anarchism, don't you think it would be a good idea to be aware of Biblical teachings on government and authority?
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I just wanted to learn more about the idea, hence why I posted the topic. Personally, I feel that Christianity and anarchy are incompatible, but I'd like to hear the perspective of a Christian who is an anarchist or libertarian12volt_man said:
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In a sinless world, would occur naturally because there would be no need for any authority except God. We wouldnt need laws (and therefore wouldnt need officials to carry them out, or a voting system) or anyone beyond the first rung of the ladder of hierarchy, the common person. Obviously, sin has been around for a long time so it cant happen. Think about how great it will be, though, when we are in Heaven and the only law we have to follow is God's! Pretty sweet.
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I've done a little more research and here's what I've found:
The scriptural justification of Christian anarchism largely rests on the following ideas:
1) God is the ultimate authority, you cannot fully dedicate yourself to him unless you reject governmental authority.
2) Paul's statements on authority are more about political realism (it was not viable to challenge the authority of Rome). His call not to "wear the sword in vain" is in part a call for Christians to be wary of authority.
3) Jesus often fought against unjust authority and abuse of power (such as Matthew 23). "Render unto Ceaser" is more about the irrelevance of money to God or somesuch.
Furthermore, the way of life described in parts of the new testament imply collectivism (I'll look up the verses later).
The scriptural justification of Christian anarchism largely rests on the following ideas:
1) God is the ultimate authority, you cannot fully dedicate yourself to him unless you reject governmental authority.
2) Paul's statements on authority are more about political realism (it was not viable to challenge the authority of Rome). His call not to "wear the sword in vain" is in part a call for Christians to be wary of authority.
3) Jesus often fought against unjust authority and abuse of power (such as Matthew 23). "Render unto Ceaser" is more about the irrelevance of money to God or somesuch.
Furthermore, the way of life described in parts of the new testament imply collectivism (I'll look up the verses later).
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