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CHRIST RETURNS IN 2030?

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Mark 13:32 says, “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” Interestingly, the disciples asked Jesus the same question just before He returned to heaven. At that time, Jesus told them it was not for them to know the times or seasons which are in the Father’s authority.

It could 100 billion years from now or tomorrow. Time has know meaning for god. There are certain signs one of the first many say the first sign is the rapture. I think that one will be noticed. People look at the world today the same way they did 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 years and farther back the same as they do know. They see war, disease, and disasters. The difference between now and then is we have satellites in orbit letting us know everything going on in the world. Another thing is disease...we have conquered some the most deadly in history, and the ones we haven't we can if caught early treat. People live regularly to there hundreds now. few hundred years ago you were old if you made it to 40. But there is no sign on the exact time christ will return
 
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What is funny two hundred years ago every cancer was a death sentance. Disease we handle with ease today was fatal back then. If you made it to 40 you were old. Now lets look at today...almost every major disease is either cured, under control, or if caught early treated with a high level of success. It is not unusual to live to 100. Of course I could sit and whine and complain about how bad life is. Lets see for the last few thousand years people have been complaining about the same stuff every few years they thing the world will end
 
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The rules of this site forbid date-setting attempts regarding Christ's return on this site. This question might be removed.
1) This topic doesn't set a date. Focused on speculating about a year, not day, or hour.
2) The Controversial area allows more elbow room for such discussions.
 
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There is something to that.

On the other hand, I see big Pharma and the medical industry profiteering from this. Do a search on "Robert Kennedy Jr. vaccine" for a real eye-opener. Ironically, in 1986 big Pharma was granted legal immunity for all vaccines. (the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986) Since then the number of vaccines the medical industry is administering has sky rocketed. Robert Kennedy Jr. was originally drawn into the debate due to his work against mercury poisoning in the environment. Someone asked him why he wasn't doing anything about the mercury in vaccines. (say what?) So it began. Wow, what a story he has to tell. I watched the presentation on London Real. He is hard to listen to. (speech problems) I put my headphones down and read the subtitles. Mind blowing information. I had always wondered why there are so many new diseases. It seems that these things are being engineered. The longer we live with disease, the more money they make.

The London Real presentation was banned by YouTube. But still lives on their own platform. (sort of) Here's the link. These are clips from the longer interview.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - My Fight Against Mandatory Vaccinations, Big Pharma, And Dr. Fauci - Digital Freedom Platform
 
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1) This topic doesn't set a date. Focused on speculating about a year, not day, or hour.
2) The Controversial area allows more elbow room for such discussions.
Thanks for the clarification!
 
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Jesus Himself doesn't know....only the Father.

I've heard people try and get around this by saying that Jesus didn't know the day or hour - and the implication is that we could be able to try and work out the week, month or year.

For me it's simple - in Matthew 24 Christ gives 4 signs of his return, the last one being the moon, sun and starts all go out.

At this point - he's about to show up.

Obviously I believe scripture teaches clearly a post-tribulation appearing of Christ and not the "any moment now" teaching.

So when I am in the tribulation and the antichrist shows his true colours after 3 1/2 years then I will be counting 42 months until Christ returns.
 
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I'm happy other people are seeing through their fraud. I first saw it with seatbelts. It became mandatory for the greater good. Before that, Americans could decide for themselves whether they wanted to wear them or not, it was called freedom. Thanks for the input.
 
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Damian, thanks for the input, but I think your mind is in overtime. Take Peter's scripture and apply it as the Bible tells us. Now, how many days has it been since our Beloved died and resurrected? Two days.
 
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Rachel, I'm impressed! You're right the date is set in stone. You're also right about the "fullness of the Gentiles." Check out John 4 and notice how many "days" the Lord spent with the Samaritans. The Samaritans were considered "Gentiles" in those days and the Lord spent two days with them. I believe the chapter ends with Him saying something about "and many more believed because of His word." His Word would be the New Testament given to the Gentile nations. Thanks and blessings to you. James.
 
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I disagree Redwing, we are tasked to "watch" so that His return does not take us "unawares." The 7th day people were convinced the end would come in 1844. Harold Camping, a noted theologian, was convinced it would be in the early 90's. So, you are right, people have always tried to figure it out, many only to make a name for themselves. Now read my posting again without prejudice, using all the scriptures given and the emphasis on the importance of righteousness. Thanks for your thoughts.
 
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"Freedom" in choosing to not wear a seat belt.....have you ever seen pictures of people that exercise that "freedom" and have a head on crash? Sometimes the laws of the land have to step in when people don't have the sense to make logical choices for themselves....
 
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Jesus Himself doesn't know....only the Father.

Then Jesus is not GOD based on your post.

Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
If the text proves that men will know nothing of the period of the second advent, it also proves that angels will know nothing of it, and also that the Son will know nothing of it, till the event takes place! This position proves too much, therefore proves nothing to the point. Christ will know of the period of His second advent to this world. The holy angels who wait around the throne of Heaven to receive messages relative to the part they act in the salvation of men, will know of the time of this closing event of salvation. And so will the waiting, watching people of God understand. An old English version of the passage reads, "But that day and hour no man maketh known, neither the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." This is the correct reading, according to several of the ablest critics of the age. The word know is used in the same sense here that it is by Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:2: "For I determined not to know (make known) anything among you, save Jesus Christ and Him crucified." Men will not make known the day and hour, angels will not make it known, neither will the Son, but the Father will make it known.
Day and the Hour James White

The above bold line makes sense seeing how Jesus (the Son) is all knowing and is GOD
 
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We aren't called to wedge modern events into scripture. We aren't called to make predictions about Christ's return. We are called to lead holy lives and in doing so we will be prepared for Christ's return, when and if it should happen in our lives which it won't for any nunber of reasons. But by all means make yourself the victim when your view is called into question.
 
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Sometimes the laws of the land have to step in when people don't have the sense to make logical choices for themselves..

It appears that you have forgot about the inquisitions "the law of the land set by the church"
 
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Sorry - being a simple man I take Jesus at his word - that He (As God) does not know.

Again let me quote -

Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

Jesus is God, but the Holy Spirit inspired the text to say that Jesus does not know, only the Father. Good enough for me, and please don't put words in my mouth to say that I have asserted that Jesus is not God.
 
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It appears that you have forgot about the inquisitions "the law of the land set by the church"

Not at all. You ride around all you like without a seatbelt.

I drive a sports car with a top speed of 180 mph and 0-60 mph in 4 seconds and the amount of engineering in my vehicle to keep me protected is astounding. But even when driving around town the seatbelt always goes on.

Why? Because I'm not an idiot and I cannot control how other drivers behave and also because scripture commands me to obey the laws of the land.

A simple smash at 30 mph will change your mind, that is if you're even here to disagree. Again I ask - you ever seen what a simple smash at 30 mph can do without a seat belt? Not pretty.....
 
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So you believe in a Judgment by someone empowered to remove someone from the book of life
 
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Amen and Amen.
 
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So you believe in a Judgment by someone empowered to remove someone from the book of life

That was just an aside in response to the other post, which seemed to suggest Calvinistic predetermination (unless they only meant it in the sense that God knew beforehand who would believe). But I think that debate isn't appropriate here, so won't address it further.
 
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@James Honigman ; side question do you have any interesting Arthurs you have come across in your life time that you enjoyed growing up, or that you like to read now ?

The idea you are all different is right, but you all matter, are important, needed, and loved in life especially by God, and am encouraging you and supporting you, and others in the love, peace, right judgement, sober, vigliant, love, mercy, kindness, that comes from the spirit of Christ, that comes from God, that lives in us as believers here that we can have ability to have the spirit to help us while in our flesh we are tempted by everything we can be addicted to, that can harm us and take us away from the love of God were abstaining with the help of the spirit and trust in God, and be thankful and prayerful for others.

just my thoughts as well on the topics.
 
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