chinese language is controled by devil

what how?

sasaki said:

The citizenship of a free country is NOT just a single peace of paper, that means you give up your chinese citizenship and pledge loyalty to your new homeland you choosen.

the place where we were born and the place where we had grown up is a cursed country which flowing blood an tears, and I will keep talking negative news about china. Look at my signature, that is why i don't stop talking this.

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haha Sasaki you're amusing in a way

sasaki said:

The citizenship of a free country is NOT just a single peace of paper, that means you give up your chinese citizenship and pledge loyalty to your new homeland you choosen.

the place where we were born and the place where we had grown up is a cursed country which flowing blood an tears, and I will keep talking negative news about china. Look at my signature, that is why i don't stop talking this.

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I could say a lot of things in response to this, but at the end of the day think what Jesus would say looking at China - I doubt very much that he would come anywhere close to such a negative and exclusivist opinion. We know that the church is thriving very rapidly in spite of persecution and perhaps even because of it.

I think it's missing the big picture thinking that just because the country is morally corrupt and has all these control measures to stamp out christianity that somehow God is so weak that he can't overcome all these things. The view given only speaks what is seen with the eyes of a man, not with the eyes of the Spirit.

The church thrives best in persecution because people HAVE to trust God or die. With so many distractions in 'free' countries to be led off focus with, I think the christians in those countries overall are less strong, less firm in their faith because they are not tested in such overt ways.

Another thing - a chinese is a chinese, INCLUSIVE. Time to stop all the rubbish about where people were born or what passport they have, it's stupid, petty, and at worst in danger of being prejudicial. To do something constructive, direct the barbs away from the Body of Christ and point them at the devil, not China, not other people.

The kingdom will not win in China with negative rhetoric within army ranks.

sasaki said:

The citizenship of a free country is NOT just a single peace of paper, that means you give up your chinese citizenship and pledge loyalty to your new homeland you choosen.

the place where we were born and the place where we had grown up is a cursed country which flowing blood an tears, and I will keep talking negative news about china. Look at my signature, that is why i don't stop talking this.

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Sasaki, I understand your patriotism, but I think you should consider a few things. I am also a singaporean chinese. My ancestors no doubt came from China. Like you said, those who chose to leave China gave up citizenship. But does that make them less chinese? Their race stays the same. Take this analogy. A durian is ripe and drops down from a durian tree. It is still a durian.

And since words do not seem to get through to you, let us use the bible instead. I am in a chinese speaking church, serving actively.

约翰１书　３：１５－凡恨弟兄的，就是杀人的。你们知道，杀人的在他里面没有永生。

你这样痛恨你的国家，有何用处呢？神会喜悦你的作法吗？神是爱。你这样痛恨你的国家，你有活出神的爱吗？

你为何说你的国家是咒诅的呢？神有咒诅过中国吗？没有。你可能因为你是个基督徒受过患难，但也不能以牙还牙啊！你这样痛恨你的国家，对你自己和你的国家一点帮助都没有。这不是神所要的。

在圣经里，约伯受了很多灾难。他有以恨的方式来对待他周围吗？没有。他还是很信靠神。我劝你不要再被恨捆绑了。

Even a free country such as America has its drawbacks.

I stress again, hating your country does not help you, or your country in any way. If Jesus were in your shoes, what would he do? Even on the cross and facing persecution, he prayed for the people who wanted to crucify him.

I'm making my second trip to China in a few weeks...

languages are created by God. sasaki-san, i think you need to grow up. no offense meant. you need to research properly not just throw such things with no basis.

God bless you.

sasaki said:

The citizenship of a free country is NOT just a single peace of paper, that means you give up your chinese citizenship and pledge loyalty to your new homeland you choosen.

the place where we were born and the place where we had grown up is a cursed country which flowing blood an tears, and I will keep talking negative news about china. Look at my signature, that is why i don't stop talking this.

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hundred years ago my mother's Chinese ancestors moved in our country. does it count?

the villains in this story is China's government, not the chinese.

sasaki said:

I love America, for it's a free country.

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Unfortunately, that is changing quickly... For now, it is way better than China to live in.

I hate PRC, for it's a communist country, and i hate chinese cultrue as well.

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Communism isn't the crime, it's the corrupt leaders of China such as Mao, Jiang Qing (I completely hate her..), Xiaoping, etc. Even Cixi was an idiot.

I really do feel sorry for China, as many of its leaders have been beyond terrible. Personally, I am weary about doing business with Chinese (or Korean...).

Still, Chinese culture does have some very interesting things about it!

Most older and learned Japanese can read the chinese characters, which Japan absorbed as their kanji. Chinese scholars will also think the rest of japanese characters are derived from parts of chinese characters too (which can be explained for nearly all characters, please look up if bothered). If you have such high regard with japanese and use your name for it I hope you understand what you are attacking is exactly what is respected by whom you respect.

BTW, greetings Breetai, been a while, have fun in China .

Q-La said:

Most older and learned Japanese can read the chinese characters...

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ALL Japanese, young and old, who've gone to school can read the traditional Chinese characters. It is the main part of the writing system here.

...which Japan absorbed as their kanji. Chinese scholars will also think the rest of japanese characters are derived from parts of chinese characters too (which can be explained for nearly all characters, please look up if bothered). If you have such high regard with japanese and use your name for it I hope you understand what you are attacking is exactly what is respected by whom you respect.

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VERY good point!!!

BTW, greetings Breetai, been a while, have fun in China

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Cheers.

so you're going to abandon the chinese people !!

your not even going to try helping them. what kind of person are you ? that you would sit around not trying to help. even when what you do could influence one person and a diminion effect could take place.

not everyone listens to the government you know. some people actually rebels... history class, remember.

history is just a set of lies agreed upon. every new government ever set up has destroyed all old history books and rewritten history as they see fit, with them in a bright light. they banned books even. but people still read them.

the government doesnt have the ability to stop people. sure they can try. but they can never really stop a rebellion and just people trying to learn.

if you dont even try to help these people. they might never be expose to this great God. and never have the chance to convert.

you can find bad apples anywhere you look. There're plenty of corrupt things going on in the so-called 'free' countries as well. I'm not trying to discount the terrible things being done to the Chinese people by their self-serving government though. If we go by what you've said, then a bad thing happening in a 'free' country is of 'lesser evil' than a bad thing happening in China.

why?

sasaki said:

when i say a terrorist is taking a hostage, you need not say "wow, the hostage is free to move her finger", or" wow, the hostage's condition is getting better"

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Not everyone in China is a hostage, just most...

China is a beautiful country, but the CCP have destroyed so much of it...

Breetai said:

Not everyone in China is a hostage, just most...

China is a beautiful country, but the CCP have destroyed so much of it...

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I agree.

My point still stands, though. There is nothing to be gained in hating your own country.