China's Sorrow

Joshua0 · Apr 20, 2013

Many people do not realize that the Eden we read about in the Bible was not the ONLY Eden. In China they have the Yellow River area. This is the Bio-diverse Ecosystem where rice grew wild and is now domesticated. Not only the grains, but also the vegetables or herbs in China are different from what you find in Mesopotamia in the Middle East.

We do not see flooding along the Euphrates River as much anymore. The area is over developed and the water is sold for profit. Today we do still see flooding in China, along the Yellow River. Flooding that has been going on for thousands of years. Still this is very productive futile land. The floods leave very rich soil where farmers can grow and produce a lot of food.

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Wiccan_Child · Apr 20, 2013

Joshua0 said:
Many people do not realize that the Eden we read about in the Bible was not the ONLY Eden.

Probably because this is an idea you made up - what scriptural support is there that Eden is more than one place? What justification is there for equivocating the Bible term 'Eden' with any and all agricultural hubs?

AV1611VET · Apr 20, 2013

Eden was what e-scientists call "Pangaea," and the Garden of Eden would have therefore been in China.

QV please: Christianity in Chinese Characters.

Bungle_Bear · Apr 20, 2013

AV1611VET said:
QV please: Christianity in Chinese Characters.

e-christians probably believe this rubbish, but that's all it is - rubbish. Sure, some of what they say about Chinese characters is (coincidentally) true but mostly it is an attempt to twist and misrepresent things. A couple of examples:

示 = show, not god.
鬼= ghost/spirit, not devil. 魔鬼 = evil spirit, which is often translated as "devil". But in the bible they use 撒旦 (sadan)

AV1611VET · Apr 20, 2013

Bungle_Bear said:
e-christians probably believe this rubbish, but that's all it is - rubbish.

甜!

Bungle_Bear · Apr 20, 2013

AV1611VET said:
甜!

Interesting that they never mention characters like 祸 (god+mouth/words+person+enclosure) meaning misfortune.

AV1611VET · Apr 20, 2013

Bungle_Bear said:
Interesting that they never mention characters like 祸 (god+mouth/words+person+enclosure) meaning misfortune.

Perhaps they should have checked with you first, eh?

Not.

Bungle_Bear · Apr 20, 2013

AV1611VET said:
Perhaps they should have checked with you first, eh?

Not.

lol

They would do well to go learn about chinese characters, their etymology and how radicals actually work before trying to claim that a few characters out of tens of thousands prove some historical link to the Genesis story. These are probably the sort of people who would claim that because "need" is an anagram of Eden that proves we need God.

For the record, I'll take the personal attack as a sign you can't counter my argument.

AV1611VET · Apr 20, 2013

Bungle_Bear said:
lol

They would do well to go learn about chinese characters, their etymology and how radicals actually work before trying to claim that a few characters out of tens of thousands prove some historical link to the Genesis story. These are probably the sort of people who would claim that because "need" is an anagram of Eden that proves we need God.

For the record, I'll take the personal attack as a sign you can't counter my argument.

LOL back atcha!

God created Eden (e-Pangaea), then planted a garden eastward in it.

If you can come up with a better region than China, I'll listen.

I don't need 'tens of thousands of radicals' in the Chinese alphabet, like you [apparently] do; my faith isn't that weak.

Just one will do.

In other words, if China has just one, but no other place has any ... well, do the math.

Bungle_Bear · Apr 21, 2013

AV1611VET said:
LOL back atcha!

God created Eden (e-Pangaea), then planted a garden eastward in it.

If you can come up with a better region than China, I'll listen.

I don't need 'tens of thousands of radicals' in the Chinese alphabet, like you [apparently] do; my faith isn't that weak.

Just one will do.

In other words, if China has just one, but no other place has any ... well, do the math.

Not only are you moving the goalposts, what you've written is complete nonsense.

Mr Strawberry · Apr 21, 2013

Also, Pangaea was just the last in a series of supercontinents. If you accept the existence of Pangaea then you are accepting the geological science that shows it came along rather late in the Earth's timeline, i.e. God didn't create Pangaea.

Strathos · Apr 21, 2013

I view Eden as metaphorical rather than a physical place.

AV1611VET · Apr 21, 2013

Bungle_Bear said:
Not only are you moving the goalposts, what you've written is complete nonsense.

One man's nonsense is another man's faith, isn't it?

Mr Strawberry · Apr 21, 2013

Strathos said:
I view Eden as metaphorical rather than a physical place.

...which is the adult way of looking at it rather than the child's way.

AV1611VET · Apr 21, 2013

Mr Strawberry said:
Also, Pangaea was just the last in a series of supercontinents.

Sure it was.

We should have six moons; why not six Edens, eh?

Mr Strawberry said:
If you accept the existence of Pangaea then you are accepting the geological science that shows it came along rather late in the Earth's timeline, i.e. God didn't create Pangaea.

Good ... I'll stick with "Eden" then.

I only reference it as "Pangaea" so the ... um ... scientifically-minded can understand.

If you ever watched Sanford & Son and saw the two policemen talking, you would understand what I'm saying.

Sanford and Son-Smitty the translator/DEA wants to hire Ebonics translators - YouTube

Mr Strawberry · Apr 21, 2013

AV1611VET said:
One man's nonsense is another man's faith, isn't it?

I suppose someone who believes he can fly by flapping his arms could say the same thing.

Mr Strawberry · Apr 21, 2013

AV1611VET said:
Sure it was.

We should have six moons; why not six Edens, eh?

Click to expand...

You really didn't know there were previous supercontinents?

AV1611VET · Apr 21, 2013

Strathos said:
I view Eden as metaphorical rather than a physical place.

You're living on it in the same way we're living on your Pangaea.

AV1611VET · Apr 21, 2013

Mr Strawberry said:
I suppose someone who believes he can fly by flapping his arms could say the same thing.

Or try ten thousand times to create a light bulb?

Mr Strawberry · Apr 21, 2013

AV1611VET said:
You're living on it in the same way we're living on your Pangaea.

You live on a small island in the Pacific don't you?

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