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Chicago Area "science" teacher caught red-handed teaching creationism

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trib article said:
A teacher is teaching that creationism and intelligent design is more relevant than evolution," [community activist Benjamin] Sherman said. "You cannot compare and contrast creationism and evolution in a public classroom. If the facts bear out that he is teaching this, I'm asking you to determine the appropriate response. Maybe you need to get someone else in there to 'un-teach' everything [accused science teacher Beau] Schaefer has taught them."

Sherman contends that, for example, in a quiz supposedly assigned by Schaefer, some questions lead students to creationist beliefs, pushing them toward the notion that evolution is not scientific. That goes against the Illinois State Board of Education's 11th-grade science assessment framework, Sherman said.
On Tuesday, Libertyville High School administrators said they had spoken with Schaefer and determined that creationism was being taught in his classroom.
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This fellow, (who names their son Beau, btw?) seems to think he is above the law, above following his employer's policies AND above the nearly 100% of scientists who find evolution to be a valid scientific theory, siding instead with his own particular beliefs in a controversial religious doctrine not even widely agreed upon by his co-religionists, much less devotees of other non-Christian religions.

But I'm sure some guy teaching high school science is a credible leader in the scientific community...narf...
 

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"You cannot compare and contrast creationism and evolution in a public classroom.

He will undoubtedly lose his job. Speaking against the Party Line ist verboten. You dare not question the One, Holy, True and Infallible Faith of Our Lord Darwin!

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above the nearly 100% of scientists who find evolution to be a valid scientific theory

"One on one, in a scientific meeting, after the third or fourth beer, my experience has been that many evolutionary biologists will say, yeah, this theory's got a lot of problems."

(Paul Nelson, Ph.D, rebel, and skeptic)
 
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"One on one, in a scientific meeting, after the third or fourth beer, my experience has been that many evolutionary biologists will say, yeah, this theory's got a lot of problems."

(Paul Nelson, Ph.D, rebel, and skeptic)

I must admit, I've never encountered anyone before who thinks that drunks are a reliable source, and now I know of two.
 
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"Now, Professor Smith, before we agree to hire you to teach in our institution, we have a series of questions you must answer.

Are you now, or have you ever been, a believer in any type of scientific theory which runs in opposition to pure Darwinism?

Have you ever read, and if so, given any credence to, works such as Genesis, the Qu'ran, the Rig Veda, or the Tao Che Ching?

Do you now or have you ever delved into the theories promulgated by Thomas Lee, Forrest Mims, Virginia Steen-McIntyre, Richard Milton, or Louis Leakey in regards to the age of Calico Man?

Do you harbor any doubts, confusion, or parallel concepts regarding spontaneous generation of life in the Precambrian Era, natural selection, punctuated equilibrium, or positive mutagenic effects in branching species?

If you answered 'yes' to any of these questions, Professor Smith, then hiring you to teach at our institution is completely out of the question, since, if true, you are harboring dangerous and potentially catastrophic ideas which may undermine and destroy our scientific theories. You may be a proponent of Intelligent Design....which as we all know is one of the most insidious fundmentalist Christian plots that this discipline has ever faced. We can no longer sit back and allow Creationist infiltration, Creationist indoctrination, Creationist subversion and the international Creationist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."


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There's observable reality and then there's things people made up because they didn't know any better. One belongs in the science class, the other does not.

"Observable reality"???

Right. When you observe a dog evolving into a cat, get back to me. Until then, it remains a fairy story for adults.
 
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"Observable reality"???

Right. When you observe a dog evolving into a cat, get back to me. Until then, it remains a fairy story for adults.
It would help for you to understand the basics of the theory before you argue against it. Just a suggestion.
 
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