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Would you like to talk about the memorial service, and event that actually took place?
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Would you like to talk about the memorial service, and event that actually took place?I can’t help that I have a better memory than you do, apparently.
I have been, thanks.Would you like to talk about the memorial service, and event that actually took place?
Yes. I’m with you there.I think that overall, the memorial service did a very good job bringing much needed unity. Even Trump and Elon Musk buried the hatchet. I think we all can agree that one thing this country can unify under is love for God, country, and each other.
Yes, nothing made me feel more in harmony with those on the right than listening to political operative Stephen Miller's shouts about securing victory over those of us who don't produce anything.I think that overall, the memorial service did a very good job bringing much needed unity.
If that is the only thing you got from the memorial service, I am sorry.Yes, nothing made me feel more in harmony with those on the right than listening to political operative Stephen Miller's shouts about securing victory over those of us who don't produce anything.
Probably the only clip that was shown on the liberal news network he watched.I thought the same thing. Is that the only part he watched?
Yes, nothing made me feel more in harmony with those on the right than listening to political operative Stephen Miller's shouts about securing victory over those of us who don't produce anything.
The best thing about the event is the Gospel was preached to millions. Charlie would have loved seeing that.
I must have missed that bit. I never recall Jesus atoning death and resurrection being mentioned. Aside from Erika Kirk, there weren't any of Christ's actual teachings being demonstrated, either (and the president went out of his way to contradict this, anyways). On the contrary, Tulsi Gabbard was there to push MAGA's divisive politics, and Gabbard belongs to a group that in the 1980's, a time when Evangelicals were less political, would have been considered a cult by many Christians in general (she claims to be Hindu, but she actually belongs to an offshot of the Hare Krishna movement that was started by a white guy and used to be known for aggressive proselytism and manipulative and controlling behaviors).
This is very nitpicky, be warned. The etmology of the word sin is is the distance to bulls eye in archery? It would be pretty strange if it didn't share etymology with the swedish word "synd", and that is also what wikipedia says, meaning crime, transgression or misdeed. I know the saying "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story" but the point could've been made without using questionable etymology.
It’s the only part I watched in full. I skimmed over the whole video looking for his pastor’s bit but it was 7 hours and the only faces I recognized were political.I thought the same thing. Is that the only part he watched?
You probably wouldn't like any of itIt’s the only part I watched in full. I skimmed over the whole video looking for his pastor’s bit but it was 7 hours and the only faces I recognized were political.
But let’s say I take you guys at your word and the pastor’s message was great. Was there something unifying and uplifting in the speeches given by Trump or by Don Jr that I missed? Should I go back and listen to those? Or how about others’? What were the highlights? Or was it just the pastor?
Probably not, but that doesn’t stop me from watching other things.You probably wouldn't like any of it
I haven't heard the name of Jesus mentioned so much in the last 30 yearsI must have missed that bit. I never recall Jesus atoning death and resurrection being mentioned. Aside from Erika Kirk, there weren't any of Christ's actual teachings being demonstrated, either (and the president went out of his way to contradict this, anyways). On the contrary, Tulsi Gabbard was there to push MAGA's divisive politics, and Gabbard belongs to a group that in the 1980's, a time when Evangelicals were less political, would have been considered a cult by many Christians in general (she claims to be Hindu, but she actually belongs to an offshot of the Hare Krishna movement that was started by a white guy and used to be known for aggressive proselytism and manipulative and controlling behaviors).
OK, but that sort of proves my wider point. If you want to preach the Gospel, why mix it with a message about how half of American voters are enemies that need to be fought and opposed?
And why associate that Gospel message with a man who focused so much on racial grievance politics? It doesn't seem very sincere if you want your message to be heard clearly. In fact it could easily be seen as scandalizing the Gospel for no good reason except partisan political gain.
Or is this about Trump supporters that are Evangelicals failing to realize there are many Christians that didn't vote for Donald Trump, didn't approve of Charlie Kirk, either because they are Black Americans, the minority of white Evangelicals that reject Christian Nationalism, or the many other Protestants and Catholics that simply don't align with that kind of politics, whether in the US or around the world? The Kingdom of God is bigger than being white or being American.
You haven’t been around my father doing home repairs.I haven't heard the name of Jesus mentioned so much in the last 30 years
That’s kind of where I’m at. I chalked it up to me not being the target audience or my general dislike of the megachurch vibe, but it just felt more like a rally than a memorial. Like, if Trump could fully lean into the performative Christian angle at his rallies, we’d get that.I watched part of it. All I can say is one word: Wierdcore. Even Friday Night at Freddy's wasn't that weird and grotesque.
MAGA has descended into a wierd, glitchy parody of itself, in an ouroboric logic that can only be produced through algorithms and spectacle. We had a singular gesture of forgiveness sanctifying rage and contempt. Only kitsch, nostalgia, and willfull blindness can make that possible.
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