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Look, Grasping, this is supposed to be a theological discussion group. That means when you say something, you should try and support it. If all you want to do is come here and profess your faith, etc., then you should not be in a theological discussion group. Automatically, being in a theological discussion group means that you have to offer some support for your claims. The problem I have with this site is that too many here do not understand the full nature of their responsibility here. They think this is the place where you can get away with simply denouncing the character of your opponents or just cite Scripture and leave it go at that or sit in judgment of academic fields that one is not qualified in, etc. I hate to say this, but I teach theology at the college level; and about 95 percent of the people here would receive an F so fast it would make their heads spin.
Do you actually have anything to say on the SUBJECT of the OP, or are you just going to argue semantics?
I think I made my position on that quite clear earlier.
How would you explain the fossil record without evolution? How did those fossils get where they are in the sedimentary strata (geologic column) if not by means of evolution, by what other means?
I think I made my position on that quite clear earlier.
So you're not here to actually discuss the OP topic, but just to take up space, waste time and generally derail the thread?
And I made mine in the OP. If you do not approve of it, as I previously suggested get a moderator involved. Otherwise, please make your posts relevant to the topic of this thread. Thank you.
No, I said earlier why I was here and I do not think suggesting a different tone to the OP is a waste of the OPs or my time nor does it derail the thread. If one seeks cooperation from others it is best do so in a way that engenders their cooperation rather than their resentment and i would expect to actually get some answers to the challenge if the challenge is respectfully put forward.
But you were the only person who viewed is as being disrespectfully put forward. As RickG said, if you think it's disrespectful, contact a moderator.
I am the only one that posted about the tone being overbearing and pompous. That does not preclude others from sharing the opinion but remaining silent. I am not one to cry to mama when someone does not communicate in the way i think they should so please can leave off with the moderator meme. My purpose was not to force anyone to do anything but to point out why others might not wish to participate in this challenge. So far I see no takers.
Your priorities seem skewed to me . You seem to care more about the opinions of YECs on evolutionary science than you do about how to phrase a request for information so as to actually receive that information. IMO a post on a discussion forum ought to at least attempt to get a discussion started but your whole purpose seems to be to stop the only one engendered by the way the OP was phrased from continuing. I tell you what, I will accomodate your wishes.But you're okay with wasting time and ignoring the actual topic of the OP to go off on a random tangent about how simply asking that a scientific claim be backed up with actual science?
Skewed priorities, mate. Skewed priorities.
Your priorities seem skewed to me . You seem to care more about the opinions of YECs on evolutionary science than you do about how to phrase a request for information so as to actually receive that information. IMO a post on a discussion forum ought to at least attempt to get a discussion started but your whole purpose seems to be to stop the only one engendered by the way the OP was phrased from continuing. I tell you what, I will accomodate your wishes.
In this thread I am issuing a specific challenge.
Explain the fossil record contained in earth's sedimentary strata without evolution.
In doing this you are required to utilize science and only science.
Also, if you provide a link, you are to provide information about what is contained in that link, not just a link. You are also expected to be familiar with the information contained in any links provided or citations made.
If someone claims that something can be disproven with science, why is it wrong to ask for them to show how with science?
I think the point of the thread is to get YEC to present their own explanation of the fossil records using "science", not simply to handwave away at some other "theory" about those fossils. Disproving evolutionary theory would not do a thing in terms of actually demonstrating the validity of YEC. That's the whole point of the request (I think).
Stands to reason. And the quotes around science and theory are a bit unnecessary (off topic, aye, but it's bugging me a bit).
Sorry. It's a bad habit I supposed. I'm simply trying to emphasize certain words as I would do in any ordinary conversation.
I think the point of the thread is to get YEC to present their own explanation of the fossil records using "science", not simply to handwave away at some other "theory" about those fossils. Disproving evolutionary theory would not do a thing in terms of actually demonstrating the validity of YEC. That's the whole point of the request (I think).
Hello Rick.The fossil record is distributed throughout earth's sedimentary strata from the oldest and simplest life forms progressively becoming more and more complex and diversified with respect to time, environmental conditions and extinction events in such a manner as to suggest evolution according to the mainstream scientific community.
In this thread I am issuing a specific challenge.
Explain the fossil record contained in earth's sedimentary strata without evolution.
In doing this you are required to utilize science and only science.
Also, if you provide a link, you are to provide information about what is contained in that link, not just a link. You are also expected to be familiar with the information contained in any links provided or citations made.
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