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<blockquote data-quote="Occams Barber" data-source="post: 75421029" data-attributes="member: 313365"><p>The Irish diaspora is usually attributed to poverty and/or the various potato famines brought on by potato blight.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You might be interested in this little Wikipedia summary of the 'Ryan' report on industrial schools completed in 2009 following nine years of investigation. This is only one of a number of reports related to institutions run by the Church.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>The commission's remit was to investigate all forms of child abuse in Irish institutions for children; the majority of allegations it investigated related to the system of sixty residential "Reformatory and Industrial Schools" operated by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church" target="_blank">Catholic Church</a> orders, funded and supervised by the Irish <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Education_and_Skills_(Ireland)" target="_blank">Department of Education</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-Commission_Report_2009_1.1-1" target="_blank">[1]</a></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>The commission's report said testimony had demonstrated beyond a doubt that the entire system treated children more like prison inmates and slaves than people with legal rights and human potential, that some religious officials encouraged ritual beatings and consistently shielded their orders amid a "culture of self-serving secrecy", and that government inspectors failed to stop the abuses.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-BBC_8059826-2" target="_blank">[2]</a></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>Among the more extreme allegations of abuse were beatings and rapes, subjection to naked beatings in public, being forced into oral sex, and subjection to beatings after failed rape attempts by brothers.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-The_abused_-_in_their_own_words-3" target="_blank">[3]</a> The abuse has been described by some as Ireland's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust" target="_blank">Holocaust</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-Ireland_contemplates_its_'holocaust_of_abuse',_and_decades_of_denial-4" target="_blank">[4]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-Child_abuse_scandal_was_Ireland%E2%80%99s_nightmare_from_hell-5" target="_blank">[5]</a> The abuse was said to be "<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Endemic" target="_blank">endemic</a>" in the institutions that dealt with boys.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-This_week_they_said-6" target="_blank">[6]</a> The UK based <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian" target="_blank">Guardian</a> newspaper, described the abuse as "the stuff of nightmares", citing the adjectives used in the report as being particularly chilling: "systemic, pervasive, chronic, excessive, arbitrary, endemic".<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-An_abuse_too_far_by_the_Catholic_church-7" target="_blank">[7]</a></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>The Report's conclusions section (Chapter 6) supports the overall tenor of the accusations without exception.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-8" target="_blank">[8]</a> But, the commission's recommendations were restricted in scope by two rules imposed by the Irish government, and therefore do not include calls for the prosecution or sanction of any of the parties involved.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-9" target="_blank">[9]</a></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse" target="_blank">Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse - Wikipedia</a></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">OB</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Occams Barber, post: 75421029, member: 313365"] The Irish diaspora is usually attributed to poverty and/or the various potato famines brought on by potato blight. You might be interested in this little Wikipedia summary of the 'Ryan' report on industrial schools completed in 2009 following nine years of investigation. This is only one of a number of reports related to institutions run by the Church. [INDENT][I]The commission's remit was to investigate all forms of child abuse in Irish institutions for children; the majority of allegations it investigated related to the system of sixty residential "Reformatory and Industrial Schools" operated by [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church']Catholic Church[/URL] orders, funded and supervised by the Irish [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Education_and_Skills_(Ireland)']Department of Education[/URL].[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-Commission_Report_2009_1.1-1'][1][/URL] The commission's report said testimony had demonstrated beyond a doubt that the entire system treated children more like prison inmates and slaves than people with legal rights and human potential, that some religious officials encouraged ritual beatings and consistently shielded their orders amid a "culture of self-serving secrecy", and that government inspectors failed to stop the abuses.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-BBC_8059826-2'][2][/URL] Among the more extreme allegations of abuse were beatings and rapes, subjection to naked beatings in public, being forced into oral sex, and subjection to beatings after failed rape attempts by brothers.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-The_abused_-_in_their_own_words-3'][3][/URL] The abuse has been described by some as Ireland's [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust']Holocaust[/URL].[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-Ireland_contemplates_its_'holocaust_of_abuse',_and_decades_of_denial-4"][4][/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-Child_abuse_scandal_was_Ireland%E2%80%99s_nightmare_from_hell-5'][5][/URL] The abuse was said to be "[URL='https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Endemic']endemic[/URL]" in the institutions that dealt with boys.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-This_week_they_said-6'][6][/URL] The UK based [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian']Guardian[/URL] newspaper, described the abuse as "the stuff of nightmares", citing the adjectives used in the report as being particularly chilling: "systemic, pervasive, chronic, excessive, arbitrary, endemic".[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-An_abuse_too_far_by_the_Catholic_church-7'][7][/URL] The Report's conclusions section (Chapter 6) supports the overall tenor of the accusations without exception.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-8'][8][/URL] But, the commission's recommendations were restricted in scope by two rules imposed by the Irish government, and therefore do not include calls for the prosecution or sanction of any of the parties involved.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse#cite_note-9'][9][/URL][/I] [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_to_Inquire_into_Child_Abuse"]Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse - Wikipedia[/URL] OB[/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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