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Then there are some like myself who do know the teaching of the Catholic Church and wholeheartedly reject it.
You may know the teachings of the Catholic Church, but you don't know them to be true. If you knew them to be true, you would be called to come home.
If I knew them to be true I would be home and nobody would need to call me. As it is, those teachings which I know to be true both cause me to be at home in my church and to reject those which contradict them.
Seems pretty obvious, doesn't it?
On second thought, however, it may point to another fact of Catholic life--the idea that no one can possibly find fault with any Catholic teachings unless it's because he doesn't understand them.
That is why so many recent converts (not steve) are here constantly quoting the Catechism, Papal Encyclicals, etc. even though no one asked a question.
Isn't that why you quote Sacred Writing (the Holy Bible), ONE of the modes of transmitting the Word of God?
No. In almost 30,000 posts here on CF I have never once posted a long passage out of the blue--when no one had asked about its contents or anything to do with it--just because I thought some readers could stand to be informed. Similarly, I have never once made a thread or post in order to explain why my own church believes as it does--unless someone else has directly asked about it or taken it upon himself to evaluate the church.
I also post things which are relevant to the discussion. How does that differ from what you do according to your beliefs about Divine Revelation?
If I knew them to be true I would be home and nobody would need to call me. As it is, those teachings which I know to be true both cause me to be at home in my church and to reject those which contradict them.
Has anyone seen the video on the OP?
Would anyone like to comment on it?
It is after all the purpose of the thread. Michael Cumbie is interested in the Unity of God's People. He has an ear for both Catholics and Protestants. It is really unfortunate that we argue so much. I acknowledge that passionate discussion is sometimes necessary, but I think that we can focus on the things that we do have in common also.
I thought you might find it very interesting.
Has anyone seen the video on the OP? Would anyone like to comment on it? It is after all the purpose of the thread.
I do have a minor observation, though, about some of the Protestants that make such complaints--that is, I'm not seeing that they actually want to have a relationship with the Catholic Church. So, maybe some work can be done on both sides.
One last thing, if the OP had simply said, "Michael Cumbie converted to the Catholic Church" instead of, "Michael Cumbie converted to the Universal Church which Jesus Founded and Sent into the world", you would have avoided breaking the CF flaming rules and the responses/posts you've gotten so far could have been avoided.
Considering many of your former posts however, I suspect the controversy that erupted over this is what you had in mind from the get-go. But I admit, that's just conjecture on my part.
--David
Yes, ... conjecture. It is right that I rejoice at what God has done for Michael Cumbie. I express the Church under names that mean something rather than what people are so used to hearing ... "Catholic" ... I imagine that when people hear this ... they think this ... and they think that ... I rather use meaningful words to describe things in their essence. Catholic is fine. But what does that mean to someone who does not know its etymology?
This is why I often refer to the "Bible" as Sacred Writing, for that is WHAT it IS. It is the Word of God via Sacred Writing.
The only flame I'm interested in is the flame of the Holy Spirit which kindles our hearts to love Jesus and one another.
Peace be with you.
Surely you understand that so long as the RCC makes such closeness impossible, there's not going to be much thought given by Protestants to the idea of that gap being bridged.
I am absolutely certain, however, that, if the Vatican ever were to change its attitude, half at least of Protestantism would be receptive. After all, our theology as always is to consider all of us Christians to be part of the same church right now, so the transition would not be all remarkable.
As I have said, I believe that the Church does need to make progress in the area of interfaith relations. I think that Vatican II opened the door a bit, but it needs to be pushed open.
Our "Year of Faith" is not about that, unfortunately. It is about bringing Catholics more in line with the teachings of the Church.
Quite true. The extreme hemorrhaging of members that has taken place in the Catholic Church in the United States is nearing catastrophic proportions. However, the proportional loss of members of Catholic relgiious orders, especially priests, is even greater.
We have serious problems in those areas. But in the US it is mainly Hispanic immigrants that help mitigate the losses in membership.
Our parish, though small, is in pretty good shape. We have a lot of young people being confirmed. Our priest is from Mexico.
In general, more Catholics seem to go over to Protestantism than vice versa, and a lot of priests are being sent over from other countries.
Becoming a member of the Catholic Church requires more time and effort than joining a Protestant Church, and is meant to be a lifetime commitment.
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