I am scared of death scared there is nothing but soul sleep . I am not saying I don't believe in heaven just scared it is not there so because I doubt heaven I also doubt God. I want to believe in heaven and God but how am I just supposed to believe what I cannot see. I am just that type of person. I guess I just have to face the fact maybe I wasn't meant for heaven. That I am destined to hell. I give up trying to get help anymore. This board isn't even that active anyway. Your not supposed to ask God for signs. I would literally have to die and see heaven before I could believe without doubt and even then I would have to know I was dead for like hours so I knew it wasn't just chemicals in my brain making me hallucinate. Smh. I have a friend with the same doubt but she says some people are just super analytical. If heaven is there I think I will go there. What the heck????
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People with OCD tend to be analytical people, but you need to take into account your OCD more I think.
I'm not saying that all of your doubts are "just OCD" but it helps you to think more logically when you are actually acknowldeging that you have a chemical imbalance in your brain.
I'm sorry that you're going through such a tough time, but if you ever need to talk to someone, I visit these boards pretty frequently.
And remember, doubts happen. It's how you react to those doubts that matters, and right now, based on the fact that you clearly want to be saved, I'd say there isn't much in the way of reaction.
As for giving up looking for help, I think that might be a good thing for you. Let me explain what I mean by that. If you keep posting here asking people whether doubt is wrong or how we can know that there is a heaven, you're never going to get an answer that satisfiees you. You will always think, "Yeah, but what about...(such and such)."
OCD makes you try so hard to get things right, but what you really need most of the time is a mental rest. So, "giving up" might be a good way to just ignore your OCD.
I do want to stress though that you give up on your OCD, not yourself or your life or anything. I really think that you can get out of this raven, just hang in there!
I'm not saying that all of your doubts are "just OCD" but it helps you to think more logically when you are actually acknowldeging that you have a chemical imbalance in your brain.
I'm sorry that you're going through such a tough time, but if you ever need to talk to someone, I visit these boards pretty frequently.
And remember, doubts happen. It's how you react to those doubts that matters, and right now, based on the fact that you clearly want to be saved, I'd say there isn't much in the way of reaction.
As for giving up looking for help, I think that might be a good thing for you. Let me explain what I mean by that. If you keep posting here asking people whether doubt is wrong or how we can know that there is a heaven, you're never going to get an answer that satisfiees you. You will always think, "Yeah, but what about...(such and such)."
OCD makes you try so hard to get things right, but what you really need most of the time is a mental rest. So, "giving up" might be a good way to just ignore your OCD.
I do want to stress though that you give up on your OCD, not yourself or your life or anything. I really think that you can get out of this raven, just hang in there!
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What am I supposed to do though just stifle the fact this may just be doubt since I can't know it is just OCD and hope I don't go to hell. It is getting to the point I don't want to leave the house cause I might wreck and go to hell.
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Remember this: God is faithful even when we're not
Raven,
When I was at the worst part of my OCD I started having some thoughts and brushing them off as OCD, but God convicted me and told me that we both knew they weren't really OCD thoughts and showed me I needed to repent of the thoughts. Doubt is not a sin and God knows what you are going through. I'm like you and thought that I was meant for hell and that there was no hope. I thought that for years before I got saved and God showed me that that just wasn't true. Remember that God does not want anyone to perish but to come to Him and find life. Raven you are loved by God so much and He knows you are struggling which is why He is even closer to you now. Just have faith despite what you think or feel. You will be ok and this will pass and you will see that God was there with you the whole time. You should listen to the song Can Anybody Hear Me by Meredith Andrews. Praying for you.
When I was at the worst part of my OCD I started having some thoughts and brushing them off as OCD, but God convicted me and told me that we both knew they weren't really OCD thoughts and showed me I needed to repent of the thoughts. Doubt is not a sin and God knows what you are going through. I'm like you and thought that I was meant for hell and that there was no hope. I thought that for years before I got saved and God showed me that that just wasn't true. Remember that God does not want anyone to perish but to come to Him and find life. Raven you are loved by God so much and He knows you are struggling which is why He is even closer to you now. Just have faith despite what you think or feel. You will be ok and this will pass and you will see that God was there with you the whole time. You should listen to the song Can Anybody Hear Me by Meredith Andrews. Praying for you.
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You don't wan to "stifle" it in the sense that you actually fight the thoughts. When they come, try not to judge them as good or bad.
And yes, you basically need to embrace your uncertainty. That's how you beat OCD.
It's hard, I know, but once you can get to the point where you can let go of your fears, you will be able to get past your OCD fears. I understand that it feels impossible, but I also know that it got better for me.
Also, try not to become more reclusive. Getting socialization is something that is very helpful for curbing your OCD.
Another way to reduce your anxiety, and thus your OCD, is to get good exercise. Running worked well for me in the past.
Praying for you!
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I know that's a hard thing to do, but it's the only way you can beat your OCD. And there's no way to be able to logically assess what your doubts really are until you have beaten your OCD. You can't think logically with it coloring all of your thoughts.
I'm not trying to suggest that you just automatically get better. I know that it isn't easy. But I'm trying to help you figure out how to get through this, and one thing that I know is that when you have OCD, you see things irrationally. Only when your outside of it can you look back and see how silly everything you thought was.
I'm not trying to suggest that you just automatically get better. I know that it isn't easy. But I'm trying to help you figure out how to get through this, and one thing that I know is that when you have OCD, you see things irrationally. Only when your outside of it can you look back and see how silly everything you thought was.
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Have you read that OCD book you got yet? It's got some good information in there that can help you out.
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Yes I got the book but I need a book that talks about this specific problem. I don't know how I can sit around not worrying about if I am going to hell. There is no way.
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It's not really not worrying, it's just choosing not to pay attention to your thoughts. Sounds crazy at this point of your life, I know, but it's how you beat any thought-based OCD symptom.
That book might not have information that addresses your specific and exact situation, but it teaches you the way that OCD works. That's really important if you want to get through this.
It might feel like you need something to fit your EXACT situation in order for it to be valid, but that simply isn't true. Reading a book on OCD that doesn't specifically and directly address your symptoms will still help you. Going to therapy with a therpist who hasn't experienced your EXACT symptom doesn't mean he won't know how to help you.
And really, judging by how much stress this is causing you, I think that you should seek some different way of dealing with your current situation. Posting on this forum will only go so far. Again, I'm no mental health professional, but it seems to me like you should consider therapy and/or medication. (Obviously, you would discuss medication with your mental health professional first)
Keep hanging in there
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