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Thus, any abortions prior to this do not stop a heart beating. Refuted, as requested ...
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I didn't do anything on purpose. If I spammed, you will have to explain to me how I did this.David Gould said:
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David Gould said:
So by your assertion, should we outlaw the killing of a pre-born baby (with a beating heart) at 5 weeks????
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you've spammed the board because you've posted the same topic under two different thread names... this one and the thread "abortion stops a beating heart."panterapat said:
it makes it difficult to have a conversation as there are two ongoing threads with the exact same subject posted by the exact same poster... see what we mean?
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I dont believe you said anything about laws, just that "abortion stops a beating heart" David showed thats not always the case. Thus abortion does Not always stop a beating heart.
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all he did was refute your argument that abortion stops a beating heart, because it doesn't always.panterapat said:
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BarbB
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David - 5 weeks - Embryo is the size of a raisin. By day twenty-one, the embryo's tiny heart has begun beating.
At 5 weeks the embryo is the size of a raisin. At 3 weeks the heart begins beating. Most abortions are performed after 3 weeks, thereby stopping a beating heart. Do we have a "math" problem?
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And again, someone assumes more than what was really said.
The statement was,
"abortion stops a heart from beating"
David showed that this was false. He did not say how many abortions are performed before the heart begins beating, just that it is possible for an abortion to be performed and not stop a heart from beating. Thus falsifying the claim that Abortion stops a heart from beating.
You are assuming that the statement instead read,
"most [or insert percentage here] abortions stops a heart from beating"
That is a different statement than the original, and is probably true.
The statement was,
"abortion stops a heart from beating"
David showed that this was false. He did not say how many abortions are performed before the heart begins beating, just that it is possible for an abortion to be performed and not stop a heart from beating. Thus falsifying the claim that Abortion stops a heart from beating.
You are assuming that the statement instead read,
"most [or insert percentage here] abortions stops a heart from beating"
That is a different statement than the original, and is probably true.
newlamb said:
5 weeks - Embryo is the size of a raisin. By day twenty-one, the embryo's tiny heart has begun beating.
At 5 weeks the embryo is the size of a raisin. At 3 weeks the heart begins beating. Most abortions are performed after 3 weeks, thereby stopping a beating heart. Do we have a "math" problem?
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BarbB
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Most, if not all, abortions are performed after the 3rd week as the woman may not even realize she is pregnant until after then. I see that you are trying to get me to say that some abortions are performed before 3 weeks therefore before a heart is beating. Usually takes a week or more to get the appointment. Therefore most abortions are in the 2nd and 3rd months (or more).Arikay said:
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You are missing the point.
I agreed with you that most abortions are performed after the 3rd week.
The question: Can you refute this?
The statement: Abortion stops a beating heart.
The answer: Yes.
The refutation: No, not all abortions stop a beating heart, because the heart does not start beating till the 3rd week. (as shown by david) So it is possible for an abortion to not stop a beating heart.
Thus this thread is pretty much finished. Unless of course you want to debate that the heart beats sooner than the 3rd week.
As far as if its ok or not to perform an abortion after the heart is beating or how many abortions are performed before the heart is beating, I would suggest seeing the other version of this thread in which that appears to be up for debate.
I agreed with you that most abortions are performed after the 3rd week.
The question: Can you refute this?
The statement: Abortion stops a beating heart.
The answer: Yes.
The refutation: No, not all abortions stop a beating heart, because the heart does not start beating till the 3rd week. (as shown by david) So it is possible for an abortion to not stop a beating heart.
Thus this thread is pretty much finished.
Unless of course you want to debate that the heart beats sooner than the 3rd week. As far as if its ok or not to perform an abortion after the heart is beating or how many abortions are performed before the heart is beating, I would suggest seeing the other version of this thread in which that appears to be up for debate.
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the_malevolent_milk_man
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Does it really matter if the woman takes a morning after pill (abortion in pill form) or waits 3 weeks and has to get a regular abortion?
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"Panterapat, why did you have to post the same thing twice in a different fasion?"
I didn't realize that it was considered spamming.
I posted twice, thinking that I would attract two different types of people into the conversation with different titles.
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I didn't realize that it was considered spamming.
I posted twice, thinking that I would attract two different types of people into the conversation with different titles.
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the_malevolent_milk_man
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So then should we outlaw certain forms of birth control because they can be taken the morning after? All they are is a high dosage of a normal birth control medicine. So say the condom breaks. The morning after pill would prevent the egg from implanting itself into the uterus. Are you really going to argue that not allowing a cell to attach to a uterus is the same thing as murder? If it hadn't been for an accident it wouldn't have attached anyways so the end result is the same.
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