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Can you bond with "Relativity" - what exactly does that mean?

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Hi there,

Just a question for you relativists: can you bond with "Relativity"?

For example, when I bond with an apple, I eat it; when I bond with a car, I drive it - see where I am going with this.

When I bond with "Relativity", I... (put up satellites?)

Thoughts?
 

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We live in a relaticvistic continuum. We are "structurly coupled" as biological beings to the external environment, and our perception (say of star light being older than our presentistic perception of it) is in a way subjected to relativity. But I think that most relativistic effects are known theoretically, and do no affect our coghnition in a primary way. We have "sense data" and make sense of it, so to speak casually. A lot of the data for relativity is much harder to come by, we cant measure gravitational lensing or the speed of light etc in the same way we can the colour of an apple. Its not primary for us, its derived like a maths proof based on empirical data, or something like that. We have an easy comprehension of "2" apples, but E=MC^2 is a lot more sophisticated to fathom.


But I heard that the observer is treated as the centre of the system in relativity - so our sense of being "in the midst" (middle) of the universe may be right...(?)... I suppose. Everywhere is its own centre, but when we are somewhere, we are centre stage - for ourselves only, but at least also.

I used to say that our ethics was relativistic - agent dependent, relative to the observer, and relating primarily to his or her flourishing. But objective also, real even if relative.

I never made the same claim about epistemology though (i.e. the foundation and limits of knoelwdge). In a sense tho' what we know is relative to our perspective, and yet objective all the same. There is sometimes an effort to associate relativistics with subjectivity, and therefore lack of real truth. I cant agree with that.
 
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Astrologist says:

Today will be the fifth of seven squares between Uranus and Pluto during the current decade. Because Mars and Jupiter are joining the action and creating a “cardinal grand cross,” a lot of people in the astrology world seem to think that this square (i.e., the fifth in the series) is going to be different, perhaps more like what we were expecting.

...And it makes more sense than the OP.
 
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I can bond with relativity as long as we're talking about favorite movies or ice cream. Truth in intellectual operation relative to [no pun intended] descriptive reality has a relativistic feel because both the material part of humans and the material world are in a state of change and fluidity. Consciousness as an immaterial power has always intuitively recognized the realm of the absolute unless particular minds are too heavily falsified; in these absolute truth is too uncomfortable to embrace and is avoided.
 
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Hi there,

Just a question for you relativists: can you bond with "Relativity"?

For example, when I bond with an apple, I eat it; when I bond with a car, I drive it - see where I am going with this.

When I bond with "Relativity", I... (put up satellites?)

Thoughts?
... daydream.
 
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When you bond with General Relativity, your time is effected by the mass of the earth... so you are always bonded to it.

(Not that I would want to use that terminology).

Interesting answer.

So you are saying there is an oxytocin response to the gravity of Earth.

I think you just made a scientifically psychological discovery - coin it?
 
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Gottservant

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I´m wondering: Is there a hidden rule on CF "Whenever you write 'So you are saying...' make sure it is followed by something the other person was clearly not saying!"?

More is always implied, than by what is stated.

You are trying to make my words subservient to a rule, not even you respect.

The only qualification that I added in my characterization, was that timing as it manifests in the mind, is reinforced chemically (because there is a chemical there that does that)
 
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Interesting answer.

So you are saying there is an oxytocin response to the gravity of Earth.

I think you just made a scientifically psychological discovery - coin it?

Can you explain what the second sentence means?

I'm just saying that you are always interacting with (participating with) general relativity. I thought that's what you were basically asking.

:)
 
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You mean you are rejecting God and bonding to (and pursuing for fulfilment) maya, the material dimension? It seems sad that God is all we can really "trust" all else being transitory at least. But as Buddha said, all composite things are impermanenet. I wonder, is the soul composite? The brain is, but what of the spirit? Our "contaminated aggregates" (body etc) are composite, but is the mind composite? Could there ever be a proof either way? How do you escape from one of these threads anyway?
 
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