opengate07 said in post #1:
Can We See Him?
"No man hath seen God at any time" (John 1:18, 1 John 4:12).
This means that no man has ever seen God the Father himself. But men saw, as it were, a picture of God the Father when they saw Jesus at his first coming, for Jesus said "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father" (John 14:9). Jesus is the "image" of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15).
Also, people of anytime can know that God exists simply by seeing everything else that exists (Romans 1:20, Psalms 19:1-4).
The physical universe couldn't have created itself from nothing by physics, because of the first law of thermodynamics. So something outside of physics had to have created the physical universe. The term spirit is used to refer to that which is exists but which is outside of physics. So what created the physical universe was a spirit (John 4:24, John 1:3). And there has to be an uncreated spirit, because nothing, not even a spirit, can create itself from nothing. For in order to create itself, it would have to already exist.
The term divine can be used to refer to a conscious entity which exists but which is uncreated. So the uncreated spirit from which the creation of the physical universe must have ultimately arisen would be divine. So just by being able to see the physical universe, people have no excuse for denying the existence of a divine uncreated spirit (Romans 1:20, John 4:24, Psalms 19:1-4). And this spirit must have eternal power (Romans 1:20), because the first law of thermodynamics requires that the energy in the universe is eternal.
Because knowing that God exists is the only reasonable response to seeing the existence of the physical universe (Romans 1:20), when educated and intelligent people refuse to admit that God exists, this is only because they're intentionally choosing to be unreasonable, choosing to be foolish, with regard to God's existence, because of their human pride, their unthankfulness to God, and their desire to continue in sinful actions (Romans 1:21-22, Psalms 14:1).
But there's no salvation in simply believing that God exists (James 2:19). Believing in Jesus Christ, the human/divine Son of God, and his sacrifice on the Cross for our sins and his rising from the dead on the third day, is the only way for people to have their sins forgiven so they can avoid having to go to hell when they die (John 3:16, John 3:36, Romans 3:25, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
