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You don't ask your body for consent? What kind of a statement is that? Of course you don't ask it for consent. Consent requires a conscious choice. People give consent, not bodies.You don't ask your body for consent. You understand how it works and take the needed steps to avoid things you don't want before they happen. You don't jump off a 2 story balcony and bemoan your broken ankles, you take the stairs and avoid breaking your ankles.
You don't ask your body for consent? What kind of a statement is that? Of course you don't ask it for consent. Consent requires a conscious choice. People give consent, not bodies.
Yet again you create an analogy where you substitute consequence for consent. They are two separate things.
If the railing fails and you fall off the stairs, you go the the hospital. Contraception are the steps one can take to avoid pregnancy. But if it fails, as it does at least 1% of the time, there are steps that can be taken.
Generally yes. In the vast majority of cases pregnancy is the result of choosing to have sex. In some of those cases it is the result of chosing to have sex without birth control. None of that, however, means consent. Consent is when people have sex with the intention of getting pregnant.Because pregnancy is a consequence of your own actions.
Spiting hairs.Generally yes. In the vast majority of cases pregnancy is the result of choosing to have sex. In some of those cases it is the result of chosing to have sex without birth control. None of that, however, means consent. Consent is when people have sex with the intention of getting pregnant.
Today's contraceptions are 99% effective. Saying "many women using them get often pregnant" isn't backed up by the data.
The main purpose of sex is to produce offspring. That's how mammals reproduced for thousands of years. Pleasure is secondary, and doesn't remove the biological factor of it.
You are right, until a flawless contraception exists there will be unwanted human beings. But if everyone used contraceptions the number of abortions would drop drastically. And even an unwanted human being doesn't necessarily have to be killed. There are entire lists of people wishing to adopt a child.
In Europe we don't have such a ruleThe point of birth is a very arbitrary point. There is virtually no difference between a 9-months old baby in the womb a day before birth and a 9-months old baby outside the womb a day after birth. Please explain why it is okay to end the life of the baby on one end of the birth canal but not on the other.
Biology is not sexismDo you really think it is reasonable to blame the government for the fact that children are carried out by women and not by men?
Also, men don't have full bodily autonomy either. Who do you think is being enlisted in times of war? The government has the right to demand the body of their people in order to keep the society alive: the men's bodies to defend it, and the women's bodies to ensure the next generation (with the slight difference that men are forced to put their life on the line while women are not forced to get pregant in the first place).
Spiting hairs.
No, it is not. It is very important distinction. It is literally the difference between consensual sex and rape. It is also the difference between wanting to get pregnant and not wanting to get pregnant.Spiting hairs.
Then your analogy fails, doesn't it?And the steps taken are not to murder the innocent life.
But it's not a human being. And even if it were somehow, human beings don't have the right to attach themselves to others without consent.That life did not ask you to form it but once it is formed, it is formed.
This is going no where except in circles.Then your analogy fails, doesn't it?
But it's not a human being. And even if it were somehow, human beings don't have the right to attach themselves to others without consent.
From a scientific perspective, a fetus is a distinct organism in the early stages of development, with its own unique DNA and the potential to develop into a fully formed human being.Really? Which scientific textbook are you using that says a fetus is not an individual?
Two humans can biologically do many things other than make humans.This is going no where except in circles.
1. It is for the last time a human being. It is not a pig or a cow. Two humans can only biologically make more humans.'
Life is not the same thing as human being.2. it is a life form as it has each of the 7 factors determined by science for life.
There are no human beings at that stage.3. Human beings at this stage of life do attach themselves to their mother.
Human being and human life are two different things. An individual cell is living, but it's not a human being. Apparently you feel all the natural miscarriages are expendable and without worth, because you're not making an effort to prevent such miscarriages.It is human life. But it is life that you feel is expendable and without worth.
Two humans can biologically do many things other than make humans.
Life is not the same thing as human being.
There are no human beings at that stage.
Human being and human life are two different things. An individual cell is living, but it's not a human being. Apparently you feel all the natural miscarriages are expendable and without worth, because you're not making an effort to prevent such miscarriages.
It's not a baby, either."Life is not the same thing as human being."
It's a life and it is human. Its biologically impossible for the unborn baby to be anything other than human.
Why are you suddenly obsessed with cows?"There are no human beings at that stage."
So you do believe they are cows.
It doesn't have a brain or a heart or the capacity for sensory input. You cannot determine if it will split into twins or triplets, and without the ability to quantify it, it can't be human. Humans can be counted. Zygotes cannot.Human being and human life are two different things. An individual cell is living, but it's not a human being."
We are not talking about a skin cell here, the zygote is a human being.
Because they make zero effort to prevent miscarriages, which makes me question their claim that they are pro-life."Apparently you feel all the natural miscarriages are expendable and without worth, because you're not making an effort to prevent such miscarriages."
How on earth do you get "miscarried babies are expendable" from the pro life position?
Prove it.The pro life Christian position is all humans have worth from the moment of conception.
How much money have you donated to that cause in the last month? The last year? The last decade?Exactly how do I, as a non medical person attempt to prevent miscarriages?
"It's not a baby, either."It's not a baby, either.
Why are you suddenly obsessed with cows?
It doesn't have a brain or a heart or the capacity for sensory input. You cannot determine if it will split into twins or triplets, and without the ability to quantify it, it can't be human. Humans can be counted. Zygotes cannot.
Because they make zero effort to prevent miscarriages, which makes me question their claim that they are pro-life.
Prove it.
How much money have you donated to that cause in the last month? The last year? The last decade?
How many letters have you written urging scientific research in this direction?
How many demonstrations have you organized for that cause?
If the answers are none, then I have my answer.
A question is not an argument.If it is not a human being what is it?
A blueprint is not a skyscraper. An acorn is not an oak tree.It has not got those structures yet, but all the plans and the DNA and information for those structures is contained within the zygote.
I see no evidence that this 'spirit' exists, or that we are anything other than another animal with a bigger brain.The spirit God gave us is what makes us human and its what seperates us from all the other animals.
There there isn't, because there is not heart at that point. A pulse is not a heartbeat.The brain begins to develop at week 3 and by week 5 there is a heart beat.
Considering that it happens 70% of the time, one wonders why a better process wasn't put in place.An early miscarriage occurs because the baby has died or has something seriously wrong with it. It is a natural process God has put into place to stop the baby staying inside the mother causing her to be very ill.
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