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Can God fix people?

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After a person finds faith in Jesus, I have heard that God will begin to change and develop you... perhaps repairing what was missing or distorted in your personality... or repairing a damaged childhood.

Is this true? How has God changed you or made you a better person?
 

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After a person finds faith in Jesus, I have heard that God will begin to change and develop you... perhaps repairing what was missing or distorted in your personality... or repairing a damaged childhood.

Is this true? How has God changed you or made you a better person?
Absolutely. Many Christians will testify to being changed for the better. Lord Jesus told us His purpose in Luke 4:18 & 19

the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. Unrolling it, He found the place where it was written: “The Spirit of the Lord is on Me, because He has anointed Me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent Me to proclaim deliverance to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to release the oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favour.

If the message you are hearing is not setting you free in some way, you have to question if it is the gospel.
 
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After a person finds faith in Jesus, I have heard that God will begin to change and develop you... perhaps repairing what was missing or distorted in your personality... or repairing a damaged childhood.

Is this true? How has God changed you or made you a better person?

God removed alcoholism from my list of sins. Not drunk in 21 years now. God debunked innumerable falsities from my mind and enlarged my vision through the study of his word and engaging with his people.
 
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I see it all as little more than obedience to God.

It's like if a child's dad told them if they straighten out their act, and do right, he'll buy them a new house in paradise. Then the child has faith in him, believes him, and holds up to their side of a really good bargain. And it's goes a little further as in the Dad, takes care of the child, provides for them and helps them along the way while they make their effort.

IOW, with a Dad/God, that loving, how can we not change, and want to please him?

It is that, that brings on change, as God will not force any type of change at all, but he will help us through what we choose to do out of our own free will.
 
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After a person finds faith in Jesus, I have heard that God will begin to change and develop you... perhaps repairing what was missing or distorted in your personality... or repairing a damaged childhood.

Is this true? How has God changed you or made you a better person?
It’s called sanctification. And it’s a slow process.


For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;
— Romans 8:29

God’s plan is to make us like His Son. Some things you’ll notice right away. Others take longer. Usually, once you start to get a handle on one area of your sin life, God graciously shows you another. It’s all for your good and His glory.
 
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After a person finds faith in Jesus, I have heard that God will begin to change and develop you... perhaps repairing what was missing or distorted in your personality... or repairing a damaged childhood.

Is this true? How has God changed you or made you a better person?
This is the function of the Holy Spirit. He brings to our attention things that displeases The Father and brings us into repentance. Be blessed.
 
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After a person finds faith in Jesus, I have heard that God will begin to change and develop you... perhaps repairing what was missing or distorted in your personality... or repairing a damaged childhood.

Is this true? How has God changed you or made you a better person?

The point is perhaps to do it yourself, otherwise he would interfere with your free will
 
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After a person finds faith in Jesus, I have heard that God will begin to change and develop you... perhaps repairing what was missing or distorted in your personality... or repairing a damaged childhood.

Is this true? How has God changed you or made you a better person?

Well, I think you heard "wrong." More specifically, I think that if we take the whole of the New Testament and apply our interpretive questions as expansively and deeply as we each can, we'll find that what God does is promote within us an acknowledgement that we've been screw-ups and we need to recognize His Will in Life. He may even "light up the runway at night" for us, so to speak. But He's not going to land the plane for us, nor is He going to transform us through some magic process where we just wake up one day, say "S.H.A.Z.A.M"!!!! ... and presto, we're perfectly perfected perfect people.

...no, somewhere in all of that is the ongoing daily grind and hard work we have to do in our engagement with a hard, sinful world.
 
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After a person finds faith in Jesus, I have heard that God will begin to change and develop you... perhaps repairing what was missing or distorted in your personality... or repairing a damaged childhood.

Is this true? How has God changed you or made you a better person?
Yes.
You can not fight against spiritual forces in your own strength. One lying spirit in four hundred prophets (1 Kings 22), and God (Who does not lie) saying, go, do, you will not fail! Need to stay close to God at all times, asking and seeking Him in all things, even crying out in all boldness.

One should get to the place where they know of no known sins that they are committing (this is by the spirit of God (power of God) remaining in a person, cause one can quench the spirit).
To clarify, you know your not perfect, but you don't know of any sins you commit, keeping a clean conscious, even the thought of it you run from. And any sin that is brought to light, is put away, which includes putting away (willfully in joy (given by God), joyfully with no regrets) your own desires (especially of the worldly kind). You will be aware of that mighty power in you, which is joy, and assurance, and strength, with the understanding, and continue to grow in the spirit.

To overcome the world, one needs to live and walk in spirit and truth, believing Jesus is the Son of God. Stay in the joy, friend of God.

Yes, He has, even childhood curses, and from things I did not realize one could, or needed to be delivered from.

There are so many things that can be said and taught here, it's a big subject, which is also taught within scripture, of the things God can do. Is there anything to big for God, creator of the universe, Who says, I will bring that evil nation against My people, who refuse to seek, and ask of Me?
 
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But He's not going to land the plane for us, nor is He going to transform us through some magic process where we just wake up one day, say "S.H.A.Z.A.M"!!!! ..

Maybe not always instantly, but if you ask God for help or to heal you?
Would he help more than just to point the way?
 
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After a person finds faith in Jesus, I have heard that God will begin to change and develop you... perhaps repairing what was missing or distorted in your personality... or repairing a damaged childhood.

Is this true? How has God changed you or made you a better person?

Yes, it is the sanctification process. What you must understand is that God does not change us without our assent and our cooperation, because God has created man with a free-will and He respects our free-will. In fact God loves us infinitely, and He wants to lead each of us to the true life and true happiness, a condition existing only in communion with God. But God cannot tolerate evil and sin, because they are incompatible with His good and holy nature. A deep interior change is then necessary for all of us to reach the eternal happiness; we must be sanctified and purified from all our evil and sinful desires. We cannot do this by our own strengths and we need God's grace. God has the power to change us but He wants to do that with our consent and cooperation, because if He did that without our consent, He would distroy the essence of the human being, that is its free nature. This is the reason why God needs our cooperation in order to sanctify us. The cooperation between God's grace and man's free-will is a fundamental teaching of the Catholic Church.
 
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Maybe not always instantly, but if you ask God for help or to heal you?
Would he help more than just to point the way?

There's no guarantee or formula in the Bible that indicates that God will do more than "just point the way." This isn't to say that for some people He might provide a miracle, but when I use the term "some," I'm intending to denote that we're looking at 1 in half a billion people.
 
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Many Christians claim that after "finding" Jesus they're lives miraculously transformed in ways they could never envision for themselves, but I find such proclamations fanciful. I think people mature as they grow. Proclaiming faith in christ is like pressing a re-set button on one's life, but in reality it's more like a time out button- a chance to have break with one's past and have some retrospect. Fact is, such people were ready to change and would have changed with or without that experience. Christianity imbues a form of learned helplessness in its adherents. Accept responsibility for your past and embrace who you want to become. That's a more sensible and honest approach to the process of maturation.

...Oh, I don't know about all of that, OnlySkyAbove. I most likely wouldn't have really considered taking up the spiritual and moral gauntlet that the New Testament proposes without having engaged the New Testament.

So no, there is no "fact is" about it.
 
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Actually, if you speak to enough de-converted christians a common thread in their narratives seems to be how when they came to christ they claimed their lives were out of control. Perhaps such proclamations sound good, reinforce preconceived notions or just fit the expected narrative. Nevertheless, adopting such a belief (i.e. Jesus changed me) not only takes away credit one may deserve for changing their lives on their own, but for some people acts as a sort of permission to self-forgive. By placing Jesus between a new self and a prior self, directly dealing with one's past mistakes/errors/faults becomes optional. You rarely have to confront the who you were. A convenient method to elude responsibility for one's actions, but also an unhealthy way to discredit one's own capacity to change on their own. No malice or personal attacks intended.

Ok then. Thank you for the extra insight on this tough topic.
 
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Yes, but with a huge asterisk next to that.

Too often Christianity is presented and treated as though it were a kind of spiritual panacea for the many struggles and trials of life. As though conversion somehow can immediately fix things like addiction, marital problems, finances, depression, anxiety, or really any manner of things which we as human beings struggle with in this life.

And I don't want to suggest the idea that God's grace and God's healing won't have an effect on us, because I believe it absolutely will.

But Christianity isn't a quick or easy fix, and it is absolutely wrong to present the Christian faith the same way that various hucksters sell their various snake oil potions at a traveling show.

Yes, the presence of the Holy Spirit in our lives is changing us. God is at work. It may not be evident, it may seem like nothing is changing, and in fact maybe things not only don't get better, but maybe even worse. But that doesn't mean God isn't there working, that the Spirit isn't doing things in us.

In the same way that a patient in a hospital is receiving the care and medicine they need, and it is helping them, because not everyone is the same and not every person's particular experiences and circumstances are identical, we shouldn't think that the process sanctification, the work of sanctification in our lives is always going to look the same way for everyone. The spiritual medicine we have from Christ through His Word and Sacraments and the Spirit's continual work in our lives through these things is changing us, is sanctifying us--even if we don't see it, or notice it, or recognize it.

There is a distinct danger in confusing sanctification with justification. Justification is the absolute, objective work of God through Christ for us. Christ died for you and me, through faith what Christ has done is now ours, and this is objectively real, objectively true because it is, because God says that it is. Thus the question of, "Am I saved?" is answered in the affirmative, not because of anything we do, or say, or think, or feel--but because of what Christ alone has done for us. Sanctification is the ongoing work in our lives, the transformative work of grace through the working of the Spirit, the continued activity of God through His Word and Sacraments keeping us in Christ, feeding us with Christ, sustaining us with Christ.

The danger is always present to conflate these; so as to begin to imagine that who we are in relation to God is not based upon the external and objective truth of who Christ is and what Christ has done, but rather on our own ability to maintain some performance, or to try and look for signs in our own life for our objective salvation--that we must see these particular changes in our life or in the circumstances of our life. Or that we must bear witness to some kind of measurable moral or spiritual progress. That we can witness marks of holiness by which to gauge or judge who we are in relation to God.

It is absolutely true that sanctification is real and is at work in our lives; but we must never look to some kind of vague, ethereal measurable quantity or quality of sanctus, of holiness.

From the Lutheran tradition we speak of what we call the Three Uses of the Law:

1) The Law of God exists to curb outward evil, it says don't murder, because murder is wrong. That is, it declares what is righteous and, by consequence, what is not righteous.

2) The Law of God as it applies to sinners is that it is a mirror that reflects back to us our own sinful unrighteousness. That when we encounter the Law we despair because we realize that we aren't righteous, that we aren't holy, that we are sinners, and thus the Law provides no sanctuary but only a harsh court of law in which there is condemnation for each and every one of us. Not because God is mean, but because the Law is the Law and we have violated the Law.

3) The Law of God for the redeemed is to function as the fixed rule by which the Faithful are to conduct themselves in the world. Lutherans speak of the "New Obedience" that in our faithlessness we were completely unable to be obedient to the Law, but now however through faith we have from God in Christ a new man, and a new obedience. And so the Law is to direct our lives, as God's people, here in this world, as we live here in the midst of one another, of all men, and indeed all God's creatures.

Where the danger usually is found is in misunderstanding the Third Use of the Law, the Third Use of the Law--that it should direct our conduct and provide for us the fixed rule by which to live in the world--does not mean that we are ever righteous by the Law, indeed go right back and look at the Second Use of the Law, we are sinners, and in our sin we are still unrighteous by the Law. The Third Use of the Law is not a yard stick by which to measure our own righteousness and holiness before God; but is the rule by which we are to live and relate to one another as human beings here in this world. That is, it is not about righteousness Coram Deo, righteousness before God; but rather righteousness Coram Mundo, righteousness before the world. The only righteousness that we have before God is the passive righteousness which is given to us as pure gift from God, the imputed, alien righteousness of Jesus Christ. The righteousness which we are to have before men, as human beings redeemed and called by God to a Christian life is the active righteousness--which, because it is active and because it is us is always going to be a failure of righteousness; nevertheless we have neighbors who are hungry, neighbors who are thirsty, neighbors who are naked, neighbors who need medical care, neighbors who need a shoulder to lean on, and so on and so forth.

To put it another way, God doesn't need our good works, but our neighbor does. And it is for this reason that while we have been saved BY grace, we have been saved FOR good works (Ephesians 2:8-10).

So sanctification is this ongoing working of God in our lives; almost as though the Holy Spirit is constantly gently but sternly tapping the back of our heads when we mess up so as to remind us to go and keep at it. The Gospel means that we already have God's gift of salvation and so we can be confident that we belong to the Lord because of what He has done already for each and every one of us; but as it relates to how we live our lives actively here in this world among one another as human beings with other human beings, the Spirit is there gently and sternly tapping us, reminding us to get back up and keep on keeping on. Because there is still a world of hurting people, there is still a world of injustice, there is still a world where people are in need of kindness, love, mercy, forgiveness, there is still a world of people who suffer and struggle. So the fight is never over until its over, the race is never over until it's over. We keep on running, we keep on fighting, we keep on pushing forward toward that high and upward calling of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Not as though we have already attained it, but pressing on, enduring, fighting the good fight. This is what the Apostle means when he says "to work out your salvation with fear and trembling", that here in this world, with one an other, with people, with all the things of life--we work, we fight, we struggle, we endure, we press on. With a gaze forward toward Christ "the author and finisher of our faith" with the "great cloud of witnesses" cheering us on, the holy saints of all ages who having finished the race, already won the fight, now cheer us on, provoking us to keep running, to keep fighting.

That's sanctification. It's not about a kind of "fix", or some instant gratification; it's not about seeing some kind of measurable progress up rungs on a ladder of holiness or piety or spirituality. It's about the ongoing, keep-on-running, keep on moving, keep on getting up of the Christian life in this world.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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