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Again, saying this is not an argument. You're welcome to express your beliefs, but don't go after others for having different beliefs when you aren't attempting to debate.Once again my statement was simple Truth. No doubt some here are up in arms because that Truth conflicts with current day proglib political correctness.
No, it was simple opinion.Once again my statement was simple Truth. No doubt some here are up in arms because that Truth conflicts with current day proglib political correctness.
I am an Atheist, but I respect the right of anybody to believe their beliefs and I would never criticise anybody for holding a true faith in the heart. I met a lovely lady and we have started dating, she is a Christian and regular church goer, is the relationship doomed to failure or can the two coexist? We're both middle aged, divorced and with grown up family so we wont be looking to procreate, there is therefore no great imperative for marriage or cohabitation, we both have our own homes and like it that way.
What are the thoughts of the Christians on here?
Saying it doesn't make it true, nor does it mean that people will agree with you. There's no purpose to this kind of rhetoric.
What post?There is no purpose to your post regarding Scripture.
Yes.You claim to be atheist.
You're welcome to believe this, but I personally disagree. I'm capable of the same critical thinking skills and can obtain the same cultural/historical knowledge as you can.You cannot have any understanding if Scripture.
What post?
Yes.
You're welcome to believe this, but I personally disagree. I'm capable of the same critical thinking skills and can obtain the same cultural/historical knowledge as you can.
Then you can understand why a non-Christian who doesn't believe that the Holy Spirit exists wouldn't agree with that.He was speaking that an Atheist will not have guidance and understanding from the Holy Spirit to help them understand aspects of scripture that critical thinking alone simply can't give.
Then you can understand why a non-Christian who doesn't believe that the Holy Spirit exists wouldn't agree with that.
You don't need to agree with me, either. It's fine.That doesn't really need to be said but agreement with it is not needed.
I understood what you meant. I was just expressing that it doesn't make any difference to someone who doesn't believe that you actually have access to greater resources. I could say that I inherently understand Tom Sawyer better than you because Mark Twain whispers to me from beyond the grave, but that wouldn't make you agree that I understand it better.It's like trying to buy a can of Cola from a machine with only 99 cents and the can costs a dollar. Almost is not good enough when it comes to understanding scripture.
You don't need to agree with me, either. It's fine.
I understood what you meant. I was just expressing that it doesn't make any difference to someone who doesn't believe that you actually have access to greater resources. I could say that I inherently understand Tom Sawyer better than you because Mark Twain whispers to me from beyond the grave, but that wouldn't make you agree that I understand it better.
Then I've succeeded in making my point. You can see the logic in my belief that it is not possible for you to obtain divine advice which would make you better able to understand scriptures than I. You are free to believe otherwise, but it's of no consequence to me.I would actually agree if that were possible but it isn't.
Then I've succeeded in making my point. You can see the logic in my belief that it is not possible for you to obtain divine advice which would make you better able to understand scriptures than I. You are free to believe otherwise, but it's of no consequence to me.
If the Holy Spirit is real and guiding Christians in their complete and perfect 100% understanding of the Bible, why are there so many different branches of Christianity?Yet, you are here on a Christian forum. I am not on an atheist forum. The dead cannot communicate with the living so your example cannot happen yet the Holy Spirit is real, and does give believers the ability to understand the scriptures where non-believers are lacking.
Why do you keep going in circles? You've made it clear that you understood my point and why I believe what I do. And I've made it clear that I understand your beliefs, in return. I do not believe that the Holy Spirit is real. Stating the opposite numerous times isn't going to change that. You do realize that you can read about someone's differing beliefs without needing to have the last word and tell them that they're wrong again and again and again, don't you? You don't have to keep saying that you have different beliefs. I know that already. That was the point. If you have an additional point to make, then feel free, but you keep covering the same ground.Yet, you are here on a Christian forum. I am not on an atheist forum. The dead cannot communicate with the living so your example cannot happen yet the Holy Spirit is real, and does give believers the ability to understand the scriptures where non-believers are lacking.
You do realize that you can read about someone's differing beliefs without needing to have the last word and tell them that they're wrong again and again and again, don't you?
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