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Miss Shelby said:You don't see the connection between abortion and torture or you don't see the connection about how people can support or condone it?
Michelle
I agree.stumpjumper said:Well you can be Pro-life, anti-Torture, and against the death penalty.
In fact, I think that would be the logical position to hold if one were to affirm the sanctity of all life.
Miss Shelby said:You don't see the connection between abortion and torture or you don't see the connection about how people can support or condone it?
Michelle
fragmentsofdreams said:I can't see torture falling under love your enemies.
Catechism of the Catholic Church said:2297 Kidnapping and hostage taking bring on a reign of terror; by means of threats they subject their victims to intolerable pressures. They are morally wrong. Terrorism threatens, wounds, and kills indiscriminately; it is gravely against justice and charity. Torture which uses physical or moral violence to extract confessions, punish the guilty, frighten opponents, or satisfy hatred is contrary to respect for the person and for human dignity. Except when performed for strictly therapeutic medical reasons, directly intended amputations, mutilations, and sterilizations performed on innocent persons are against the moral law.
I could not agree more.PaladinDoodler said:In my opinion, one who is truly Pro-Life is also anti-death penalty, anti-torture, anti-embryonic stem cell research, anti-human cloning, and anti-euthanasia. They would also be against anything else that threatens or demeans the sanctity of life.
faith guardian said:No real fancy anything here. Just; Can a Christian really condone or support torture? Is torture something a Christian can give the OK?
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Re-phrased; Would Jesus condone torture? As we are supposed to be little Christs the answer to that question should be our answer to this poll
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ChristianCenturion said:No.
But as I have found out discussing this with others, there is an issue over what constitutes torture.
Not to go into depth or speak for them, but from what I can infer, various people in my life have committed heignous crimes against humanity (me) without even my knowledge that I could have had the U.N. speak against them and perhaps imprison them.
My parents for striking me.
My teachers for making me stand in front of the class with my hands held out to the side.
My superiors in the military when they forced me to be out to sea for long periods of time, deprived me of sleep, made me do drills fighting fires, gas chamber, physical fitness testing, working while sick, having to crawl into CHT tanks (look it up), etc.
My friends for dragging me, tying me up, blindfolding me, various follies done during an initiation, or any other physical application.
The police for detaining me without first having a conviction from a court.
My neighbors for playing loud music.
My wife for taking my picture without me being conscious.
Various Atheists or other religions for not respecting my religious beliefs or outright mocking them.
... the list is allegedly very long.
As you can see, I believe there are other things to consider before being able to call something torture and I would disagree with some of the more liberal (little "L")assertions.
CaDan said:It seems to me one of the distinguishing characteristics is the intent of the person inflicting suffering on another.
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