Calvinism and Anglicanism

[Cullen1552]

I am considering returning to an Anglican type Church. I am wanting to see what the views of the folks on this board are on Reformed Theology i.e. Calvinism. When thinking about this topic would you please also comment on how you see the 39 Articles in light of the Reformation and how they line up with the Irish Articles (written by AB James Usher) and the Westminster Confession of Faith. Also where do you see Cramner, Hooker and other early Anglicans line up with the Continental Reformers i.e. Luther, Bruccer, Zwinglie, Calvin, ect.

Thanks,

Cullen<+><

 

[Rolf Ernst]

I am considering returning to an Anglican type Church. I am wanting to see what the views of the folks on this board are on Reformed Theology i.e. Calvinism. When thinking about this topic would you please also comment on how you see the 39 Articles in light of the Reformation and how they line up with the Irish Articles (written by AB James Usher) and the Westminster Confession of Faith. Also where do you see Cramner, Hooker and other early Anglicans line up with the Continental Reformers i.e. Luther, Bruccer, Zwinglie, Calvin, ect.

Thanks,

Cullen<+><

Brothers together, basically unified in faith and doctrine from what I understand. I have never seen the names of Cramner and Hooker used without high respect being given them.

 

[Cajun Huguenot]

I am considering returning to an Anglican type Church. I am wanting to see what the views of the folks on this board are on Reformed Theology i.e. Calvinism. When thinking about this topic would you please also comment on how you see the 39 Articles in light of the Reformation and how they line up with the Irish Articles (written by AB James Usher) and the Westminster Confession of Faith. Also where do you see Cramner, Hooker and other early Anglicans line up with the Continental Reformers i.e. Luther, Bruccer, Zwinglie, Calvin, ect.

Thanks,

Cullen<+><

The 39 Articles are thoroughly Reformed. Thomas Cranmer was flawed (as we all are) but God used him greatly and he died a martyr for the Faith of Jesus Christ and the Reformation.

The 1552 version of the Book of Common Prayer was edited and aproved by Bucer (who was then in England. The Anglicans have always had Reformed wing in the Church and it still does today.

If there are in near by you, I would recommend you look into and contact the Reformed Episcopal Church.

In Christ,
Kenith

 

[cygnusx1]

I quite like almost all of the 39 articles ........ especially the denial of Purgatory!


but I don't want to belong to a Church that has Gay ministers and bishops and is all for women ordinations ..... ie , women leading in Church.


so I doubt if I will ever go back.


I would be very surprised if you could find more than one person who is an Anglican who subscribes to their creed.

 

[Cajun Huguenot]

I quite like almost all of the 39 articles ........ especially the denial of Purgatory!


but I don't want to belong to a Church that has Gay ministers and bishops and is all for women ordinations ..... ie , women leading in Church.


so I doubt if I will ever go back.


I would be very surprised if you could find more than one person who is an Anglican who subscribes to their creed.

THere are Episcopalians/Anglicans herein the U.S. who are quite conservative and do subscribe to the Articles and I know there are solid Anglicans in Africa and Asia.

I don't no much about the Anglican Church in the UK except it is like the ECUSA (main body of Anglicans here) liberal and anti-biblical in many ways. But even in the ECUSA there are solid folks fighting to save their denomination from suicide. I don't think they will win this battle.

In Christ,
Kenith

 

[cygnusx1]

THere are Episcopalians/Anglicans herein the U.S. who are quite conservative and do subscribe to the Articles and I know there are solid Anglicans in Africa and Asia.

I don't no much about the Anglican Church in the UK except it is like the ECUSA (main body of Anglicans here) liberal and anti-biblical in many ways. But even in the ECUSA there are solid folks fighting to save their denomination from suicide. I don't think they will win this battle.

In Christ,
Kenith

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/08/05/bishop/

 

[Cajun Huguenot]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/08/05/bishop/

Yea that is a good example of them loosing the battle.

 

[edie19]

I realize that there is a great deal of variety (for lack of a better word) within the Anglican church - like many other mainline churches they're all over the place theologically.

In the US the Episcopalian Church has a reputation of being pretty liberal re: social issues. There has been considerable fall-out over Bishop Robinson. It's been 2 years since he was elected bishop and while things are calm on the surface, I think there's still a lot brewing about that situation. We haven't heard the last of it. Bishop John Spong, while retired, still is the center of some controversy in the Episcopalian Church.

Consider that in England, when Charles becomes king - the head of the Anglican Church will be a professing atheist (at least an agnostic).

However, the Anglican Church in Africa has some strong, Bible believing leaders. There are a lot of theologically sound men and women within the Anglican Church. Like anything else, one just needs to be extremely discerning and hold the church to a high Biblical standard.

Does the church exhibit the signs of a true church? The marks of a true church are one that teaches the gospel, proper administration of the ordinances and church discipline. The goal of the church is the equipping of the saints and for edification of the body of Christ. (Acts 2:42, Ephesians 2:19-22, Ephesians 4:12)

 

[StAnselm]

THere are Episcopalians/Anglicans herein the U.S. who are quite conservative and do subscribe to the Articles and I know there are solid Anglicans in Africa and Asia.

And Australia. Represented here by erin74. I believe in the Diocese of Sydney all clergy are still required to subscribe to the 39 Articles prior to ordination. So don't be so negative cygnus!

So the 39 Articles are not the problem - the problem is that they are not always accepted.

 

[erin74]

just found this one.

move to sydney and you'll be fine - or armidale... if you like rural life!

our archbishop has already implied/said that if/when the church splits the sydney diocese will align with the africans as opposed the the uk branch. This will mean for australia that there will be a few diocese like sydney, and the rest will probably go the other way.

dh had to subscribe to the 39 articles before ordination! he says he agrees with them all - I must admit I don't think I've actually ever sat and tried to read them all, but I suspect I've come across them all at some stage or another.

oh yeah - and he had to read calvin at college - they all had to sign something that said that they had carefully read calvin's institutes (a different section each year). Carefully was defined by some as not tearing the pages as they turned them!

 

[StAnselm]

oh yeah - and he had to read calvin at college - they all had to sign something that said that they had carefully read calvin's institutes (a different section each year). Carefully was defined by some as not tearing the pages as they turned them!

Great post! We don't even have to read Calvin's Institutes, though the idea was mooted a few years ago.

 

[edie19]

Great post! We don't even have to read Calvin's Institutes, though the idea was mooted a few years ago.

A couple of years ago my church did book studies. The abridged (into 1 volume) Calvin's Institutes was the first book we read. I keep intending to read it again, but my list of books to read is already longer than my available time. Oh well. I know I have a copy and can refer to it when needed.

 

[erin74]

There was one guy who had read it for fun before coming to college!!!! But he could also tell you about pretty much any book that was mentioned, what colour it was, what year it was published, author, the works. Very handy for the lecturers.