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LOL!The same is true of evolutionists. The believe in their theory so deeply, and they so much despise God, that they will do whatever they reasonably can to undermine or discredit a creation account. Don't be so naive. Look in the mirror.
Yes, there is a type of rock called 'sedimentary' that can be found the world over.setst777 said: ↑
The fossil record over the face of the earth embedded in what is now mostly sedimentary rock, including the thousands of miles of oil reserves and coal beds with fossil embedded throughout, is clear evidence for a worldwide catastrophic flood.
??? They are worldwide.
Sedimentary rock is worldwide.
Fossils embedded in what is now solid rock, and in coal beds, is worldwide.
Fossils are formed by rather quick burial in anaerobic conditions and silt, or volcanic ash. Such fossil formation is rather rare today, but yet, we encounter all these fossil remains embedded in rock, coal, and other mineralizations, over the entire world in what are now solid rock layers; so, the layers of rock were not always rock. The fossils existing in the layer of rock prove this to be true.
Amazing insight. It is almost as if you think no evolutionists understand this.So the fossils tell us that the rock layers that now contain the fossils were not always rock;
World-wide, so please show me this continuous stratum containing fossils of all extinct creatures in it.rather, most rock containing fossils used to be sediment that quickly covered a vast number of organic things, and so, formed various types of fossils within the rock layers. And this was worldwide.
Just-so stories are cool.Many of the rock formations we now see today were, therefore, not formed from eroding solid rock over millions of years, but rather, softer sediment layers quickly eroded into the huge rock formations we see today, that have hardened over time. And this erosion was on a massive scale, because we know the earth went through environmental changes after the flood causing huge storms.
We see these thousands of miles of coal beds and oil reserves throughout the world, on land, and in seas, and oceans. Oil is formed from algae, which has to be quickly covered by silt/sediment under anaerobic conditions under enormous pressure and heat to form oil. That is why they are called fossil fuels.
None of this is evidence for a world-wide flood 4500 years ago. In fact, none of this is actually "evidence."...
So, the evidence shows me that not all things were constant as they are today; rather, far from it!
Your claims sound like desperation to me.So you say. Sounds like clear bias to me.
I have been involved in many numerous debates on the subject. You obviously have very little knowledge of the evidence and how it is used.
setst777 said: ↑
The fossil record over the face of the earth embedded in what is now mostly sedimentary rock, including the thousands of miles of oil reserves and coal beds with fossil embedded throughout, is clear evidence for a worldwide catastrophic flood.
??? They are worldwide.
Sedimentary rock is worldwide.
Fossils embedded in what is now solid rock, and in coal beds, is worldwide.
Fossils are formed by rather quick burial in anaerobic conditions and silt, or volcanic ash. Such fossil formation is rather rare today, but yet, we encounter all these fossil remains embedded in rock, coal, and other mineralizations, over the entire world in what are now solid rock layers; so, the layers of rock were not always rock. The fossils existing in the layer of rock prove this to be true.
So the fossils tell us that the rock layers that now contain the fossils were not always rock; rather, most rock containing fossils used to be sediment that quickly covered a vast number of organic things, and so, formed various types of fossils within the rock layers. And this was worldwide.
Many of the rock formations we now see today were, therefore, not formed from eroding solid rock over millions of years, but rather, softer sediment layers quickly eroded into the huge rock formations we see today, that have hardened over time. And this erosion was on a massive scale, because we know the earth went through environmental changes after the flood causing huge storms.
We see these thousands of miles of coal beds and oil reserves throughout the world, on land, and in seas, and oceans. Oil is formed from algae, which has to be quickly covered by silt/sediment under anaerobic conditions under enormous pressure and heat to form oil. That is why they are called fossil fuels.
Rarely are conditions right to form actual oil in our recorded history. In the past, however, as the waters receded from the flood, huge and quite vast tracts of algae collected in recessions in the earth that are averaging around 6000 feet deep, some recesses being over 50,000 square miles. And then these huge tracts of algae were buried rather quickly in huge layers of sediment that later on solidified into sedimentary rock and sandstone.
Coal beds also are formed by quick burial of sediment over huge tracts of vegetation that accumulated in recesses in the earth that are, in some cases, over 70,000 square miles and over 3,000 feet in depth. The sediment must be deposited quickly to form the right pressure, heat, and anaerobic conditions for coal beds to form. Such conditions are very rare and localized today, but this happened all over the world during the flood, as it receded.
We also know that the earth went through huge environmental changes. For instance, ferns use to grow the size of trees.
So, the evidence shows me that not all things were constant as they are today; rather, far from it!
A theory is never a fact no matter how much you want to believe otherwise.
Creation is carefully founded upon science.
Evolution is carefully founded upon science.
However, no scientific evidence is available that proves that evolution or creation is anything more than an theory. Theories are never facts.
Christians and their fallacies...??? Most Christians are in name only.
Right... Darwin should have invented DNA sequencing such that he could have added genetics to his theory in the 1850s. He should have jumped 100 years into his future to understand population genetics.Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection is no longer accepted by evolutionists as the primary method of evolution. Multiple theories to explain evolution are now proposed. So much for Darwin's research into facts.
This is why scientific discussions with creationists are futile. When they realize they are in over their head, they almost always pull out this nonsense as an escape.
"God placed within each species genetic information which allows the different kinds of plants and animals God created to adapt in various situations and environment."
EVIDENCE????
Amazing...It is reasonable to reject the idea of a universal flood, because there is no evidence for such a thing. This doesn't harm a hair on any god's head. It's just the facts of geology.
That is your uneducated opinion.
Things fall "down" on the surface of the earth. This is due to gravity. This is a fact.
The theory of universal gravitation explains why this happens. Gravity is both theory and fact.
Living things change (evolve) over time. This is due to changes in the genome over time. This is a fact.
The ToE explains why this happens. Evolution is theory and fact.
The 'debates' you took part in must have been quite a sight.
We 'see' this? How? Pease EXPLAIN how we "see" that the genetic code allows for adaption. What we actually see is CHANGE in the genes, not that the 'information' was already there.The genetic code, which is extremely organized and complex, gives the complete instructions for each kind of life to form.
We see that the genetic code allows for adaption - short term and long term.
Short term adaptions are things like, resistance training will cause the cells of the body to adapt - the cardiovascular system becomes more robust to take on the extra load. The muscles adapt to become more efficient under stress loads.
It is like you just read a website selling suntan lotion...As well, people tan when in the sun. That is a short term adaptation to not only protect the body, but also to develop vitamin D, an essential nutrient.
Just-so stories are precious.There are thousands of examples of short term adaptation all programed into life forms by the complex genetic pattern that each kind of animal is formed.
Amazingly, there is a genetic explanation for this. It has to do with CHANGES to their DNA. This is actually evidence AGAINST your God-claim! And it is actually the reverse of what you imply - people started out with dark skin, and losing the dark skin was an adaptation to living in higher and lower latitudes. Just one example of many on the subject: Genetics of Hair and Skin Color.Long term adaptation: When people live in hot and sunny climates long enough, they develop more permanent pigment adaptation to protect the body against chronic radiation.
Europeans were eating 'processed foods' 1000 years ago? Evidence please. I mean actual evidence, not more stories.Europeans, having been subjected to a diet higher in processed foods, have adapted the ability to handle that kind of food intake without becoming diseased, as do Asians and other ethnicities from which such a diet has been alien to them, until recently within the past 1000 years or so.
There is no doubt the genetic code is a highly engineered and very complex design by which kinds of animals are formed, with the ability to adapt to changes in environment.
Ok... Well anyway - as you have such amazing scientific insights and such, here are a couple of threads I've started on the subjects at hand. Maybe you can set me straight?Creation is theory and fact for the same reasons.
Please keep ion mind folks, this creationist is setting out to provide "evidence" for this claim of his:
"God placed within each species genetic information which allows the different kinds of plants and animals God created to adapt in various situations and environment."
We 'see' this? How? Pease EXPLAIN how he "see" that the genetic code allows for adaption.
Cool story - 100% IRRELEVANT to your claim, and this has NOTHING to do with 'God placed within each species genetic information...'
It is like you just read a website selling suntan lotion...
Just-so stories are precious.
But they are NOT evidence.
You see, EVIDENCE would be to provide the genetic foundation for sun tanning. I am surprised that a debate-winning science expert like you cannot tell the difference between a story and evidence.
Amazingly, there is a genetic explanation for this. It has to do with CHANGES to their DNA. This is actually evidence AGAINST your God-claim! And it is actually the reverse of what you imply - people started out with dark skin, and losing the dark skin was an adaptation to living in higher and lower latitudes. Just one example of many on the subject: Genetics of Hair and Skin Color.
See what I did there? I provided some EVIDENCE. I did not just make an empty assertion and claim it is evidence, like you do. You obviously have very little knowledge of the evidence and how it is used.
Europeans were eating 'processed foods' 1000 years ago? Evidence please. I mean actual evidence, not more stories.
Also - you again contradict your earlier evidence-free claim - you claimed Yahweh put all that "genetic information" information in us in the first place. Why did it take 100 years?
Also, define "genetic information" as you are using it.
Cool assertion.
Still no evidence that "God placed within each species genetic information which allows the different kinds of plants and animals God created to adapt in various situations and environment."
You obviously have very little knowledge of the evidence and how it is used.
Not really - those are just assertions. And the assertions are unsupported and no sensible person would conclude that they support a world-wide god flood.
That is the evidence, which I provided. Theories are formed to explain the evidence. The theory itself is not the evidence. This is true for Creation Science just as it is true for Evolution Science. Both are theories that try to explain the evidence provided.
Not really - those are just assertions. And the assertions are unsupported and no sensible person would conclude that they support a world-wide god flood.
I already dealt with that stuff.
It is not evidence. It is a series of stories that in no way supports your assertion, that much is obvious.That is the evidence, which I provided.
That is irrelevant. You presented neither theory nor fact. You presented stories (with no evidence) and merely imply that these stories support your God-claim.Theories are formed to explain the evidence. The theory itself is not the evidence. This is true for Creation Science just as it is true for Evolution Science. Both are theories that try to explain the evidence provided.
Not facts at all. You left out a lot of detail, for (there are other ways to make fossils, for example). And you merely imply that your stories support your God-claims.No assertions made. This is scientific fact.
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