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<blockquote data-quote="David Brider" data-source="post: 64840455" data-attributes="member: 81349"><p>What do you think are the "different needs" that men and women have? It seems to me that the only need that men and women have in using a public toilet are...well, to use the toilet in privacy. Yes, men's facilities normally have urinals as well as regular toilets, but all people <em>actually</em> need is a basic toilet to use, a wash basin and soap, and a hand dryer or towels. The fact that gender-segregated facilities only came into existence in the late 19th century strongly suggests that that's not an essential part of it.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I think it's a bit of a stretch (okay, a <em>lot</em> of a stretch) to attribute the fact that <em>some</em> public facilities are moving towards mixed-sex instead of single-sex toilet facilities, to "demonic spirits". It doesn't <em>seem</em> particularly demonic to me, at any rate. Maybe I'm missing something.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Using a mixed-sex toilet facility is "demonic behaviour" and a "reprobate inclination"? People who use such facilities are "vermin"? <em>Seriously</em>?</p><p> </p><p><rest snipped because tl/dr, and frankly, difficult to take remotely seriously...></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="David Brider, post: 64840455, member: 81349"] What do you think are the "different needs" that men and women have? It seems to me that the only need that men and women have in using a public toilet are...well, to use the toilet in privacy. Yes, men's facilities normally have urinals as well as regular toilets, but all people [I]actually[/I] need is a basic toilet to use, a wash basin and soap, and a hand dryer or towels. The fact that gender-segregated facilities only came into existence in the late 19th century strongly suggests that that's not an essential part of it. I think it's a bit of a stretch (okay, a [I]lot[/I] of a stretch) to attribute the fact that [I]some[/I] public facilities are moving towards mixed-sex instead of single-sex toilet facilities, to "demonic spirits". It doesn't [I]seem[/I] particularly demonic to me, at any rate. Maybe I'm missing something. Using a mixed-sex toilet facility is "demonic behaviour" and a "reprobate inclination"? People who use such facilities are "vermin"? [I]Seriously[/I]? <rest snipped because tl/dr, and frankly, difficult to take remotely seriously...> [/QUOTE]
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