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But what does he mean?

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Trump tells supporters they won’t have to vote in the future: ‘It’ll be fixed!’

I tend to just understand what people mean directly by the words they choose making sure to consider tone and body language and stuff.

But it seems through Trumps first term, my ability to comprehend English words (coming from him) took a hit. From everyone else in my life and my students, other teachers, and all other english speakers, they said I was OK. But Trump supporters kept insisting I was not understanding the English that Trump was speaking.


But what is it Trump means when he says this? I need some Trump translators.
 
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In this particular segment of this particular speech, I don't think he's talking about ending democracy. I think it's just simple self-centeredness. He cares about votes in 2024 because he's running. In 2028, he won't be running, so he doesn't care whether people vote or not in 2028.

(I'm not denying the scariness of Project 2025 at all. And the former president has done dangerous things in the past -- again, not denying any of that. But on this particular occasion, I think he's just emphasizing that, for him, the main point of Christians voting in elections is to give Trump the affirmation he needs, namely, being re-elected to the presidency.)
 
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In this particular segment of this particular speech, I don't think he's talking about ending democracy. I think it's just simple self-centeredness. He cares about votes in 2024 because he's running. In 2028, he won't be running, so he doesn't care whether people vote or not in 2028.
I could see that. But he pretty clearly said that they would "have it fixed".....
 
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Option 1: Trump institutes Project 47/2025, ensuring the elimination of the Constitution and "replacing it with a more representative and responsive system" that will not require voting.

Option 2: Trump will fix everything that Christians [as he was speaking to Turning Point USA] could ever want in perpetuity, obviating the need for voting.

Option 3: Trump is aware that he is the anti-Christ, and the end days will come within the next 4 years, with Christians being Raptured away leaving behind the non-Christians to handle the problems of who to elect in 2028.

Other options?
 
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Option 1: Trump institutes Project 47/2025, ensuring the elimination of the Constitution and "replacing it with a more representative and responsive system" that will not require voting.

Option 2: Trump will fix everything that Christians [as he was speaking to Turning Point USA] could ever want in perpetuity, obviating the need for voting.

Option 3: Trump is aware that he is the anti-Christ, and the end days will come within the next 4 years, with Christians being Raptured away leaving behind the non-Christians to handle the problems of who to elect in 2028.

Other options?
I like number 3
 
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Option 2: Trump will fix everything that Christians [as he was speaking to Turning Point USA] could ever want in perpetuity, obviating the need for voting.

I was guessing this option. Trump describes everything he does as the best, so his presidency will be so wonderful that he'll permanently fix everything that's wrong with the country. I think there's an implicit assumption that the people in his audience don't really like to vote; the sales pitch is that if they make an exception and vote for him this once, then they can go back to not voting again.
 
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I can think of a few scenarios that could come about to achieve this. None of them are good or democratic.
So can I. So can The Heritage Foundation. So can most any person or private group of civilians. But what counts is actual feasibility.
 
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Option 1: Trump institutes Project 47/2025, ensuring the elimination of the Constitution and "replacing it with a more representative and responsive system" that will not require voting.

Option 2: Trump will fix everything that Christians [as he was speaking to Turning Point USA] could ever want in perpetuity, obviating the need for voting.

Option 3: Trump is aware that he is the anti-Christ, and the end days will come within the next 4 years, with Christians being Raptured away leaving behind the non-Christians to handle the problems of who to elect in 2028.

Other options?
What's the actual reality, probability and especially feasibility of any of that? I thought Trump is the guy who's so incompetent and powerless, he couldn't even build a wall.
 
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It's a bit ironic seeing that when you both spend so much time with Christians online.
Well, we won’t be seeing much of yinz after the Rapture, we might as well get our time in now, huh?
 
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Well, we won’t be seeing much of yinz after the Rapture, we might as well get our time in now, huh?
That's like spending lots of time with relatives you can't wait to see go back home before they leave. In other words, it doesn't seem to make much sense.
 
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That's like spending lots of time with relatives you can't wait to see go back home before they leave. In other words, it doesn't seem to make much sense.
Well if I had any sense I’d be a Christian then, wouldn’t I?
Then you’d be stuck with me for all eternity!
 
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What's the actual reality, probability and especially feasibility of any of that? I thought Trump is the guy who's so incompetent and powerless, he couldn't even build a wall.
All I'm asking is for a translation of what he said.

Not a feasibility or likelihood.


Personally I. Just chalking this one up as another lie; a lie that some people want to hear
 
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Option 3: Trump is aware that he is the anti-Christ, and the end days will come within the next 4 years, with Christians being Raptured away leaving behind the non-Christians to handle the problems of who to elect in 2028.
You never know. This may sound dumb to a nonbeliever but for Christians this could be a reality. We don't know who the one world leader will be in the future but he will have charisma (Trump doesn't) and fool many and impress many with signs maybe magic.

Personally, I don't think it's Trump because there are a couple of signs that have to come to pass and that is communication technology and cashless society.
 
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Option 2: Trump will fix everything that Christians [as he was speaking to Turning Point USA] could ever want in perpetuity, obviating the need for voting.

Other options?
Trump campaign spox provides and Option 4 that is just not believable. 'He actually was making an entirely unrelated campaign talking point that I will now repeat for you'.

Trump faces backlash for ‘in four years, you don’t have to vote again’ remark

The Trump campaign, however, says the comments, made at the event hosted by the conservative group Turning Point Action, were about how Trump would unite the country. Asked to clarify what Trump meant, Steven Cheung, a spokesperson for the campaign, said in a statement on Saturday that the former president “was talking about uniting this country and bringing prosperity to every American, as opposed to the divisive political environment that has sowed so much division and even resulted in an assassination attempt.”

[WaPo comes through with journalism that points more toward Option 2, but with Trump leaving half of it out, making it ambiguous.]

In front of a different Christian audience last month, Trump made a similar suggestion about Christians not needing to vote after this year’s election.

At a Faith and Freedom Coalition event in Washington, the former president said Christians “don’t vote as much as they should.”

“Do you know the power you have if you would vote? … You’ve got to get out and vote, just this time. I don’t care — in four years, you don’t have to vote, okay? In four years, don’t vote,” he said. “I don’t care by that time, but we’ll have it all straightened out, so it’ll be much different.”
 
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You never know. This may sound dumb to a nonbeliever but for Christians this could be a reality. We don't know who the one world leader will be in the future but he will have charisma (Trump doesn't) and fool many and impress many with signs maybe
Huh. I've never thought that Trump DOESN'T have charisma. I mean I don't think much of him but I think more than a few ofbuis supporters would argue that
 
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