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Agreed, one of the Ten Commandments is Thou Shalt Not Murder. Now, for those of you who think capital punishment is permissible, do you really think that God approves of burning people because they believe the wrong thing?
Some of us would call capital punishment "state sanctioned murder", especially when not necessary to protect society from physical harm.Murder, by definition, is unlawful premeditated killing.
Since executing heretics was, at one time, allowable under law, it was not murder. At the same time executing heretics was not considered an immoral act. It appears that there was a time when God approved of burning people.
Both the law and Christian morality have changed with time and culture.
OB
I'm happy to agree with you that capital punishment can be described as 'state sanctioned murder' (despite it being an oxymoron).Some of us would call capital punishment "state sanctioned murder", especially when not necessary to protect society from physical harm.
The NT tends to go against it. Where does it say outwith the Torah to slay a heretic?I'm happy to agree with you that capital punishment can be described as 'state sanctioned murder' (despite it being an oxymoron).
This doesn't change the fact that burning heretics was, at one time, both legally and morally acceptable to Christians. Since Christians no longer accept burning heretics as morally (or legally) acceptable we have a situation where Christian morality has demonstrably (and drastically) changed.
OB
Deuteronomy 13Where does it say outwith the Torah to slay a heretic?
The NT tends to go against it. Where does it say outwith the Torah to slay a heretic?
On this day (October 27) in 1553, Michael Servetus was burned at the stake in Geneva for spreading heretical beliefs concerning the Trinity.
Michael Servetus - Wikipedia
I cannot make sense of executing others for heretical beliefs. But, for better or worse, Christians have done just that. It seems to me, if it is wrong to execute heretics today, then it was wrong to do so in the past. But, some might disagree.
How did you vote and why?
Yes, and we see examples of that with the Pharisees and Rome or how the Church furthered it's power with and after Constantine. Classic examples of building a kingdom in their own image based on human tradition rather than following the Kingdom of GodThe church neither bears the sword nor has the right to kill for justice' sake (as distinguished from self-defense, a right which the Christian has but can surrender). When the church takes upon itself the sword, or gets in bed with the state and uses its illicit lover to bear the sword for its purposes, great woe will ensue and many may be stumbled.
Deuteronomy is in the Torah.Thanks DT
OB
That is in the Torah.Deuteronomy 13
Yes.That is in the Torah.
On this day (October 27) in 1553, Michael Servetus was burned at the stake in Geneva for spreading heretical beliefs concerning the Trinity.
Michael Servetus - Wikipedia
I cannot make sense of executing others for heretical beliefs. But, for better or worse, Christians have done just that. It seems to me, if it is wrong to execute heretics today, then it was wrong to do so in the past. But, some might disagree.
How did you vote and why?
I'm happy to agree with you that capital punishment can be described as 'state sanctioned murder' (despite it being an oxymoron).
This doesn't change the fact that burning heretics was, at one time, both legally and morally acceptable to Christians. Since Christians no longer accept burning heretics as morally (or legally) acceptable we have a situation where Christian morality has demonstrably (and drastically) changed.
OB
Are you equating God with religion?
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