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Brothers and Sisters, is it TIME FOR WRATH???

Is it Time to start Preaching the Wrath of God???

  • Yes! Preach the Word!!! Wrath is part of God's message.

  • No. I do not think this is good for God's people or heathen.

  • Maybe, I'm not sure if we need to go this harsh.

  • Not yet. We should hold off for a few more years.

  • I am a heathen and hate this kind of preaching.


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The bow of God's wrath is bent, and the arrow made ready on the string, and justice bends the arrow at your heart, and strains the bow, and it is nothing but the mere pleasure of God, and that of an angry God, without any promise or obligation at all, that keeps the arrow one moment from being made drunk with your blood. Thus all you that never passed under a great change of heart, by the mighty power of the Spirit of God upon your souls; all you that were never born again, and made new creatures, and raised from being dead in sin, to a state of new, and before altogether unexperienced light and life, are in the hands of an angry God. However you may have reformed your life in many things, and may have had religious affections, and may keep up a form of religion in your families and closets, and in the house of God, it is nothing but his mere pleasure that keeps you from being this moment swallowed up in everlasting destruction. However unconvinced you may now be of the truth of what you hear, by and by you will be fully convinced of it. Those that are gone from being in the like circumstances with you, see that it was so with them; for destruction came suddenly upon most of them; when they expected nothing of it, and while they were saying, Peace and safety: now they see, that those things on which they depended for peace and safety, were nothing but thin air and empty shadows.
The God that holds you over the pit of hell, much as one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect over the fire, abhors you, and is dreadfully provoked: his wrath towards you burns like fire; he looks upon you as worthy of nothing else, but to be cast into the fire; he is of purer eyes than to bear to have you in his sight; you are ten thousand times more abominable in his eyes, than the most hateful venomous serpent is in ours. You have offended him infinitely more than ever a stubborn rebel did his prince; and yet it is nothing but his hand that holds you from falling into the fire every moment. It is to be ascribed to nothing else, that you did not go to hell the last night; that you was suffered to awake again in this world, after you closed your eyes to sleep. And there is no other reason to be given, why you have not dropped into hell since you arose in the morning, but that God's hand has held you up. There is no other reason to be given why you have not gone to hell, since you have sat here in the house of God, provoking his pure eyes by your sinful wicked manner of attending his solemn worship. Yea, there is nothing else that is to be given as a reason why you do not this very moment drop down into hell.
O sinner! Consider the fearful danger you are in: it is a great furnace of wrath, a wide and bottomless pit, full of the fire of wrath, that you are held over in the hand of that God, whose wrath is provoked and incensed as much against you, as against many of the damned in hell. You hang by a slender thread, with the flames of divine wrath flashing about it, and ready every moment to singe it, and burn it asunder; and you have no interest in any Mediator, and nothing to lay hold of to save yourself, nothing to keep off the flames of wrath, nothing of your own, nothing that you ever have done, nothing that you can do, to induce God to spare you one moment. -- And consider here more particularly,
  1. Whose wrath it is: it is the wrath of the infinite God. If it were only the wrath of man, though it were of the most potent prince, it would be comparatively little to be regarded. The wrath of kings is very much dreaded, especially of absolute monarchs, who have the possessions and lives of their subjects wholly in their power, to be disposed of at their mere will. Prov. 20:2. "The fear of a king is as the roaring of a lion: Whoso provoketh him to anger, sinneth against his own soul." The subject that very much enrages an arbitrary prince, is liable to suffer the most extreme torments that human art can invent, or human power can inflict. But the greatest earthly potentates in their greatest majesty and strength, and when clothed in their greatest terrors, are but feeble, despicable worms of the dust, in comparison of the great and almighty Creator and King of heaven and earth. It is but little that they can do, when most enraged, and when they have exerted the utmost of their fury. All the kings of the earth, before God, are as grasshoppers; they are nothing, and less than nothing: both their love and their hatred is to be despised. The wrath of the great King of kings, is as much more terrible than theirs, as his majesty is greater. Luke 12:4,5. "And I say unto you, my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that, have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: fear him, which after he hath killed, hath power to cast into hell: yea, I say unto you, Fear him."
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The above is a portion of the greatest sermon ever preached in the U.S.. It is from Jonathan Edwards' 'Sinners In The Hands Of An Angry God'.

Brothers and sisters, my question to you is; is it time for your pastor to start Preaching some Wrath??? Serious.

We are seeing our country getting out of control. I believe it is time for us to man up and start warning people of the Wrath of God. Our pastors and priests are our #1 source for this. I believe that our children and their children will be in a serious world of hurt if we do not warn them.

I believe that the time is through with all this weak placating to the heathen in our church services. This whole "seeker sensitive" nonsense is weakening our churches and the message of the Cross and the Wrath of God. Someone has to tell them. The time is now!

What say you brothers and sisters? :preach:
 

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I think we should preach who God is in our life. If He seems mad at us all the time maybe we need to take another look at ourselves first before we try and preach to others? :scratch:
tulc(who used to preach wrath, but then he got better!) :)
 
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I think we should preach who God is in our life. If He seems mad at us all the time maybe we need to take another look at ourselves first before we try and preach to others? :scratch:
tulc(who used to preach wrath, but then he got better!) :)
Just out of curiosity, how did you get better? And do you think the wrath you were preaching stemmed from your own emotional state at the time?
 
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Just out of curiosity, how did you get better?

Ever heard the expression "if your only tool is a hammer you tend to see all problems as nails"? My whole concept of God was based on escaping judgement rather then on His love for us. It makes a difference. Alot of the changes in my life came when I got married, even more after we had children, becoming a member of a Christian community helped lots also.

And do you think the wrath you were preaching stemmed from your own emotional state at the time?
it was how I saw God. :)
tulc(just a guy learning to be a better person) :)
 
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I believe that the time is through with all this weak placating to the heathen in our church services. This whole "seeker sensitive" nonsense is weakening our churches and the message of the Cross and the Wrath of God. Someone has to tell them. The time is now!
. . . And this is nothing but one step away from germinating terrorism in the name of killing the heathens.
 
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. . . And this is nothing but one step away from germinating terrorism in the name of killing the heathens.

Weak.

The only killing that we are talking about is GOD hurling you into the lake of fire, which is the "Second Death".

If you look at it, it would be the most TERRIFYING thing ever to realize that you are being chucked into the Lake of Fire!!! The realization at that point when you are 100% clear and aware that you are being hurled into a place with NO ESCAPE and it is filled with fire! Wham! Now your are there, and screaming because of the pain, and you are 100% in realization that you can't do anything to stop this from going on. Your in sheer TERROR. Knowing that this is it. There is no forgiveness or Mercy that is going to be shown to you; EVER!!! THE TIME OF MERCY IS DONE, AND YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NONE COMING TO YOU!!! You can't beg or ask for anything from GOD. He has thrown you completely away like trash and are in a fire dump. You are nothing but eternal burning filth, worthy of only GOD'S contempt!!!! That is absolutely TERRIFYING!

Only weeping and gnashing of teeth!!! :cry:

Yea, that is terror.
 
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I am all in favor of Christians preaching wrath, hell fire, finger waving, whatever as I would say it does more to harm your religion then it does to enlarge it.
We are not in need of enlarging it. That is GOD'S job, not ours. He is in charge of Salvation. Jesus' very name means "I AM SALVATION". We are just doing our job. Our job is to preach the Word.
 
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Weak.

The only killing that we are talking about is GOD hurling you into the lake of fire, which is the "Second Death".

If you look at it, it would be the most TERRIFYING thing ever to realize that you are being chucked into the Lake of Fire!!! The realization at that point when you are 100% clear and aware that you are being hurled into a place with NO ESCAPE and it is filled with fire! Wham! Now your are there, and screaming because of the pain, and you are 100% in realization that you can't do anything to stop this from going on. Your in sheer TERROR. Knowing that this is it. There is no forgiveness or Mercy that is going to be shown to you; EVER!!! THE TIME OF MERCY IS DONE, AND YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NONE COMING TO YOU!!! You can't beg or ask for anything from GOD. He has thrown you completely away like trash and are in a fire dump. You are nothing but eternal burning filth, worthy of only GOD'S contempt!!!! That is absolutely TERRIFYING!

Only weeping and gnashing of teeth!!! :cry:

Yea, that is terror.

That, or someone took the brown acid.

Since when was GOD a psychotic rage-fuelled sociopath?
 
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I, for one, will never convert to Christianity through the endless preaching of fear and hatred. If there is a way for me to awaken to a strong belief in a god, it will be by way of God being a loving benevolent deity in my mind.

During Jesus' life on this earth, the majority of what he preached was of love and forgiveness. At least this is the impression I hold.
 
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That, or someone took the brown acid.

Since when was GOD a psychotic rage-fuelled sociopath?
No brown acid, and no psychosis.

Just the truth of the Word of God. Truth can be more frightening than any work of fiction.
 
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Weak.

The only killing that we are talking about is GOD hurling you into the lake of fire, which is the "Second Death".

If you look at it, it would be the most TERRIFYING thing ever to realize that you are being chucked into the Lake of Fire!!! The realization at that point when you are 100% clear and aware that you are being hurled into a place with NO ESCAPE and it is filled with fire! Wham! Now your are there, and screaming because of the pain, and you are 100% in realization that you can't do anything to stop this from going on. Your in sheer TERROR. Knowing that this is it. There is no forgiveness or Mercy that is going to be shown to you; EVER!!! THE TIME OF MERCY IS DONE, AND YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NONE COMING TO YOU!!! You can't beg or ask for anything from GOD. He has thrown you completely away like trash and are in a fire dump. You are nothing but eternal burning filth, worthy of only GOD'S contempt!!!! That is absolutely TERRIFYING!

Only weeping and gnashing of teeth!!! :cry:

Yea, that is terror.
Terrorism is when the preached Sophistry of the faithful find God too slow, and your wrathful vanity of being morally superior is a good step back to Inquisition.

I think your faith in retribution is disturbing because it would be easy to just go ahead and perform "God's Work" by policing morality with murder and fear.
 
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