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Breaking The 4th Wall

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Breaking the 4th Wall is often done in media and it tonight I was asked
"Don't you wish we could break the 4th wall?"...

My thought is, we do. Well in a way.

We exist in 3 basic dimensions. Time, space, and matter.
Or at least as far as our general perception of everyday life can be summed up.

When we pray are we breaking the 4th wall?

What do you think?
 

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Breaking the 4th Wall is often done in media and it tonight I was asked
"Don't you wish we could break the 4th wall?"...

My thought is, we do. Well in a way.

We exist in 3 basic dimensions. Time, space, and matter.
Or at least as far as our general perception of everyday life can be summed up.

When we pray are we breaking the 4th wall?

What do you think?

Stravinsk is confused :confused:

How does media "break a wall" - and what is the wall?

Is the 4th dimension "thought life"? Does breaking the wall mean being introduced to new information of some sort? As media introduces us to new information, as does prayer? Or at least - perception of information?

This question is very psychedelic - Pink Floyd like.
 
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"Speaking directly to or otherwise acknowledging the audience through the camera in a film or television program, or through this imaginary wall in a play, is referred to as "breaking the fourth wall" and is considered a technique of metafiction, as it penetrates the boundaries normally set up by works of fiction" - Fourth Wall

So in a sense Stravinsk, yes I guess thought life could be covered under this idea.

We have free will and a relationship with our Creator.

We speak via prayer to our Creator.
Some of us have quite animated prayer lives.

So when we do this, are we breaking our fourth wall?
 
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"Speaking directly to or otherwise acknowledging the audience through the camera in a film or television program, or through this imaginary wall in a play, is referred to as "breaking the fourth wall" and is considered a technique of metafiction, as it penetrates the boundaries normally set up by works of fiction" - Fourth Wall

So in a sense Stravinsk, yes I guess thought life could be covered under this idea.

We have free will and a relationship with our Creator.

We speak via prayer to our Creator.
Some of us have quite animated prayer lives.

So when we do this, are we breaking our fourth wall?

Hmm. It depends?

I would say, as a generality - no. But as a case specific - maybe.

The idea of the 4th Wall as you've described it (and I had a brief look at what Metafiction means, as I was not familiar with the term) means by definition communicating a truth, or acknowledging a reality (in this case to an audience - but in a prayer - to God) within the context of a fiction.

Petitionary prayers (like asking for Wisdom) - are excluded because the answer is not given to God - instead it is asked of God.

A statement of acknowledgement or belief - directed to God (such as "God, you will heal so and so of Cancer in Jesus Name") is not necessarily communicating a truth, as we all know - God doesn't always "answer" in the affirmative, by acknowledging the belief as true, or true in the future.

Perhaps it could be taken such if the idea is not to necessarily communicate a truth - but to acknowledge a spiritual reality that we don't always understand, but wish to communicate with - in this sense, yes - but it sort of turns the idea of it being Metafiction on it's head -

unless -

It's confession. Like of a hidden sin. An acknowledgement of wrongdoing, or being in error. That would be an "yes" to it breaking the 4th Wall.
 
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Well, the acknowledgement of mediums in the OT gives credibility to actions like telepathy...if this is another example of breaking the fourth wall, then, yes, I do believe we are able to break the fourth wall; and have been able to since the early years of our human existence.
 
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