Bob Bubulinski unable to name any crime that Biden has committed.

Larniavc said:

In the first 31 seconds he has an opportunity to answer the question. But he dissembles. Again and again.

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WOW! 31 whole seconds! That is amazing!

Let's take a look at that:

At the 18 Second time stamp - Questions One: Is it your contention that you personally witnessed President Joe Biden Commit a crime?

Answer – I believe the fact that he was sitting with me while I was putting together

28 seconds – interruption number one. Did you witness the President commit a crime? Is it your testimony todays

Time Stamp 33: Answer yes.

Now that you realize the error - will you be changing the title?

Larniavc said:

And failed to specify what said crime was. Remember, RICO isn't a crime. Poor fatso- intimidated by a girl.

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WOW! "poor fatso - intimidated by a girl"

Hmmm. is this a good debate tactic?

The exchange lasted 1:28 seconds and she interrupted him 13 times. That averages out to being interrupted every 6 seconds - Considering that - I think your title should stay the same - because he certainly could not answer her question when being interrupted every 6 seconds.

Larniavc said:

When repeatedly asked by AOC which crime has Biden committed (after being reminded that RICO is not a crime but a category) Bob Bubulinksi refused to answer.


When you don't even have a crime in mind, let alone any evidence of it you really should pack up and go home.

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Refused to answer?

He clearly believes that the president was involved in more than a few of his son's dealings...based on his perspective as a witness to dealings.

Let's be honest....it's more than they had on Trump for the January 6th hearings. They had a woman telling stories about Trump trying to grab a steering wheel away from secret service agents and she wasn't even in the car. Plenty of people on here believed that. At least Mr. Bublinski was in the room for Biden's crimes.....was he not?

Larniavc said:

And failed to specify what said crime was. Remember, RICO isn't a crime. Poor fatso- intimidated by a girl.

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Oh....RICO isn't a crime. I guess that hubbub in Georgia has been all for naught.

Ana the Ist said:

Oh....RICO isn't a crime. I guess that hubbub in Georgia has been all for naught.

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As said before, it's a category of a crime. You need to specify what action would be the crime that falls under RICO.

"Your Honour, he commited a traffic violation!"
"So what did he do?"
"A violation."

Ana the Ist said:

Oh....RICO isn't a crime. I guess that hubbub in Georgia has been all for naught.

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These are the charges. RICO means it was a conspiracy between two or more people and everybody is charged the same, under the RICO Act.

The premature celebrating is nothing more than a misunderstanding of the law.

Here are the charges. Now that you know that RICO stands for 'Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations', you realize that they are not specific crimes but a label which ties a group of law-breakers together to face the same crimes regardless if an individual did not break a specific law under RICO.

Solicitation of violation of oath by public officer​

This count relates to alleged attempts by Trump and others in his orbit to peddle election fraud claims that they said would have changed the outcome of the voter counts in Georgia. Trump repeatedly contacted top Republican leaders in Georgia, including the state’s governor, lieutenant governor, secretary of state and former House Speaker. (Trump is charged with this particular crime and others more than once, so you will see some counts listed multiple times here.)
The indictment specifically mentions this last call — to David Ralston, at the time the Speaker of the House in Georgia — saying that on Dec. 7, 2020, Trump cajoled him to call for a special session “for the purpose of unlawfully appointing presidential electors” from Georgia.

Former president Donald Trump greets supporters before speaking at the Georgia Republican Party's state convention on June 10, 2023, in Columbus, Ga. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

Conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer​

Trump and others are accused of conspiring to have people “falsely hold themselves out as the duly elected and qualified presidential electors” from Georgia in December 2020. This count accuses Trump and others of plotting to put forth people to falsely claim they were Georgia electors to essentially be counted instead of the electors appointed by the state’s governor when he certified the election results.



There are multiple counts related to this plot, with the indictment accusing Trump and others in the case of repeatedly breaking the law when they pushed forward pro-Trump electors.
Here’s who else was charged in Georgia (other than Trump)

Conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree​

This count similarly accuses Trump and others of committing a crime in connection with trying to push forward a pro-Trump slate of electors. Trump and others are accused here of effectively putting this plot into writing, saying that they conspired “to knowingly make a document titled ‘CERTIFICATE OF THE VOTES OF THE 2020 ELECTORS FROM GEORGIA.’” This document, the indictment continues, falsely purported to be from actual presidential electors in Georgia.

Conspiracy to commit false statements and writings​

This count also related to the document titled “CERTIFICATE OF THE VOTES OF THE 2020 ELECTORS FROM GEORGIA.” For this count, Trump and others are accused of conspiring to make and use this false document, which contains a false statement claiming that it was signed by “the duly elected and qualified Electors” from Georgia.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D) speaks during a news conference at the Fulton County Government building on Monday, Aug. 14, in Atlanta. (Joshua Lott/The Washington Post)

Conspiracy to commit filing false documents​

This count also relates to the document claiming to be from Georgia’s electors. On this count, Trump and others are accused of conspiring to file that document in court, even knowing it contained “the materially false statement” claiming it was signed by the state’s electors, the indictment alleges.

Conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree​

This count also accuses Trump and others of wrongdoing in connection with the false elector plots. This charge alleges that the group conspired to create a document claiming “to have been made by the authority of the duly elected and qualified presidential electors from the State of Georgia, who did not give such authority,” and then have it sent to the Archivist of the United States as well as Georgia’s governor’s office. The document was titled “RE: Notice of Filling of Electoral College Vacancy.”

Conspiracy to commit false statements and writings​

This count also relates to the document titled “RE: Notice of Filling of Electoral College Vacancy.” On this charge, Trump and others are accused of conspiring to make and use this document even though it contained false statements regarding who was the chair and secretary of Georgia’s electoral college meeting in 2020.

Filing false documents​

This count similarly alleges that Trump and one of the lawyers pushing to overturn his loss — John Eastman — conspired to file a false document in court. The indictment alleges that they filed a document called “VERIFIED COMPLAINT FOR EMERGENCY INJUNCTIVE AND DECLARATORY RELIEF” in federal court, with the filing containing materially false information.

Solicitation of violation of oath by public officer​

Trump is accused again of committing this crime. This time, the indictment accuses him of cajoling Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State, to commit a felony “by unlawfully altering, unlawfully adjusting, and otherwise unlawfully influencing the certified returns for presidential electors” in Georgia.
Trump called Raffensperger on Jan. 2, 2021, just days before Congress was set to certify the election results, saying he wanted to “find” votes needed to overcome Biden’s margin of victory. The indictment accuses Trump and Mark Meadows, his White House chief of staff, of trying to get Raffensperger to violate his oath.

False statements and writings​

This count is fairly straightforward: According to the indictment, when Trump spoke to Raffensperger and other Georgia officials, he knowingly made false claims alleging a host of deceit in Georgia’s proceedings, along with other states.

Solicitation of violation of oath by public officer​

Trump is accused here of again urging Raffensperger to violate his oath, this time in a letter he sent him in September 2021. The indictment alleges that by calling on Raffensperger to overturn the election “and announce the true winner,” Trump was again calling on Raffensperger to break the law.

False statements and writings​

This count again accuses Trump of knowingly making a false statement to Raffensperger. The indictment alleges that in his September 2021 letter to Raffensperger, Trump falsely claimed to him that “the number of false and/or irregular votes is far greater than needed to change the Georgia election result.”
Amy Gardner contributed to this report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/15/trump-charges-georgia/

Larniavc said:

When repeatedly asked by AOC which crime has Biden committed (after being reminded that RICO is not a crime but a category) Bob Bubulinksi refused to answer.


When you don't even have a crime in mind, let alone any evidence of it you really should pack up and go home.

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Spin at its finest! AOC did not come off looking as intelligent as the post alludes to. I am sure numerous crimes would have been named but AOC didn't want to hear Bobulinksi's answer by talking over him and reclaiming her time. Actually he started naming crimes but was cut off by AOC.

Fake news spin.

OBTW Tony Bobulinksi is his name not Bob Bubulinksi. Leftist tactic obscure the facts by mischaracterizations and inaccurate reporting.

Rico vocations are a chargeable crime AOC did not show herself to be knowledgeable on the topic but no surprise there.

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Spin at its finest! AOC did not come off looking as intelligent as the post alludes to. I am sure numerous crimes would have been named but AOC didn't want to hear Bobulinksi's answer by talking over him and reclaiming her time. Actually he started naming crimes but was cut off by AOC.

Fake news spin.

OBTW Tony Bobulinksi is his name not Bob Bubulinksi. Leftist tactic obscure the facts by mischaracterizations and inaccurate reporting.

Rico vocations are a chargeable crime AOC did not show herself to be knowledgeable on the topic but no surprise there.

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QFT

JustOneWay said:

These are the charges. RICO means it was a conspiracy between two or more people and everybody is charged the same, under the RICO Act.

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Real quick...before anything stupid gets said on this thread. AOC asked for a statute. Bublinski said RICO.



A more expansive view holds that in order to be found guilty of violating the RICO statute, the government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt: (1) that an enterprise existed; (2) that the enterprise affected interstate commerce; (3) that the defendant was associated with or employed by the enterprise; (4) that the defendant engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity; and (5) that the defendant conducted or participated in the conduct of the enterprise through that pattern of racketeering activity through the commission of at least two acts of racketeering activity as set forth in the indictment. United States v. Phillips, 664 F. 2d 971, 1011 (5th Cir. Unit B Dec. 1981), cert. denied, 457 U.S. 1136, 102 S. Ct. 1265, 73 L. Ed. 2d 1354 (1982).


AOC isn't very bright...but hey, at least she isn't afraid to show everyone her complete failure to grasp reality.

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Rico vocations are a chargeable crime AOC did not show herself to be knowledgeable on the topic but no surprise there.

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The crime is not called RICO, just like Trump, nor the other henchmen at the Jan 6th riot were charged with the crime of insurrection.

Larniavc said:

He had plenty of time. He was simply unable to.

Smh

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You must be talking about another time because that’s not what I saw

Larniavc said:

What does that sentence even mean?

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Presumably they meant violations, or something like that. RICO is chargeable. It is count #1 in the indictment. But obviously, it doesn't come alone.

essentialsaltes said:

The point of RICO is to show a conspiracy to support an underlying criminal enterprise. And you can't just say there was 'an underlying criminal enterprise'. You have to charge people with crimes, as Georgia has done in counts 2-41 in its indictment.

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Larniavc said:

What does that sentence even mean?

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Nothing, really. They do not understand the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act

Annotation

The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) of 1970 seeks to strengthen the legal tools in evidence gathering by establishing new penal prohibitions and providing enhanced sanctions and new remedies for dealing with the unlawful activities of those engaged in organized crime.

BPPLEE said:

You must be talking about another time because that’s not what I saw

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Setting AOC aside, Bobulinski was questioned by the whole subcommittee. Did he ever assert what crime Biden committed?

essentialsaltes said:

Setting AOC aside, Bobulinski was questioned by the whole subcommittee. Did he ever assert what crime Biden committed?

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He tried. Someone drowned him out. If it’s not a crime how can Trump be charged with it?