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Bipolar and dating

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My daughter has the diagnosis of bipolar - although I'm not convinced that's all it is, but due to age, that's the label they've given her. Anyway, she really really really struggles in the dating arena. I mean its so hard on her. She wants to be like the rest of her friends, who have boyfriends and are busy making prom plans and going out and stuff. But she can't seem to do it. Each relationship she's had has been a massive rollercoaster ride. One boy tried to hang in there - cause I think he really cared for her - but eventually he too gave up and it ended in a blaze after only 2 months. She was left hurt and spiralling even more. Since then she's had 3 potential boyfriends but each has quickly figured out something is not right with her and quickly flee.

Any advise on teen dating w/bipolar?
 

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Yes she's on medication and it helps but when she has her "waves" no medicaiton will help. I think she's about to enter one soon or is at the onset of it. They usually don't go very well.

She "met" a boy yesterday, updated her facebook they were in a relationship then today she removed it. Now she's at work with a girl who doesn't like my daughter and this is following on the foothills of hearing some gossip at school that has been going around about her. So she's in a delicate state and I'm worry any little thing is going to set her off.

I just wish she would understand that she should focus on getting better herself now and worry about a boyfriend later.
 
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Yes she's on medication and it helps but when she has her "waves" no medicaiton will help. I think she's about to enter one soon or is at the onset of it. They usually don't go very well.

She "met" a boy yesterday, updated her facebook they were in a relationship then today she removed it. Now she's at work with a girl who doesn't like my daughter and this is following on the foothills of hearing some gossip at school that has been going around about her. So she's in a delicate state and I'm worry any little thing is going to set her off.

I just wish she would understand that she should focus on getting better herself now and worry about a boyfriend later.

My hat is off to you in this situation. There is absolutely no easy solution! Have the docs tried upping her medication altogether, sounds like it might not be strong enough. But I'm no doctor.
It's going to be difficult separating the bipolar symptoms from those of just being a teenage girl. Do you know why the breakup after just a day? Could be a normal teenage girl thing. Although, I will say it does sound very much like a bipolar thing--he loves me, he loves me not. Being a teenage girl is hard enough, definitely, without the bipolar setting you off.
It's a really great thing that you are trying to notice her triggers. What kind of coping mechanisms does she have? Television is a great one for me, or a movie I haven't seen--something to concentrate on. Walking, too helps. I used to walk for hours sometimes, with my headphones on.

Is she seeing a psychologist? I know it can be really difficult to get her to go to one, but hopefully you can.
 
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Yeah she sees a therapist twice a week. Her coping mechanism seems to be me, unfortunately, cause its very draining and I often feel I can't really help. I try to direct her to do things like going for a walk or journaling, but really she just wants to consume me. If not me, she wants on the internet, which has always proven to be rather disasterous - as she gets into mischief that just ends up causing more spiralling. Spoke to the therapist today (who met with my daughter for a visit) and she said she's unsure why the quick breakup - but that she's in a really escalated state of mind.

I just so wish I could help her, but I fear she may have to hit a brick wall several times over before she gets it. My biggest fear is what her poor choices will ultimately cost her - sigh, but guess there's really nothing I can do.
 
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Oh, please don't ever feel that way!! I can just about guarantee that you are helping!! Whether it seems that way or not!
Just that she is using you for a coping mechanism definitely shows that you are helping. Otherwise, she would not want to have anything to do with you in those times. I understand it's draining. But just keep reminding yourself how much worse it really is for her. She appreciates what you are doing--even if she can't really show that she does.
Journaling never worked for me. I hated it--made me worse. Have you tried walking with her? I know you are stressed, and pressed for time, but maybe if you walk a few times with her, she will realize that she likes it, and start doing it on her own. Does your family have a dog she can walk? Or does she have a cd player (oh, am I dating myself there?) or an MP3 player she can use on the walks?
Do you have Netflix or something like that? Try to keep some movies she would like, but hasn't seen on hand. Something her brain can concentrate on. Works for me. Who knows if it will work for her, but worth a try. Somewhere she can be alone and watch tv, if possible. I don't know her or your situation, but it's better if she just concentrates without having anyone bother her.
Has she shown interest in any kind of hobby? Model building, things like that? Something other than the internet? I know I enjoy using my hands-helps me concentrate.
What about some type of physical thing? Karate? Aerobics? Long distance running? Riding a bike? Physical activity helps me. I have to be careful, though, because just a little bit of activity will sometimes kick me into a manic mode. I have to keep going til I get tired. Like when we go to the gym, I'll ride the stationary bike for at least 30 minutes or sometimes much longer, depending on how often I've been riding lately. Maybe some type of team sport can be good. Not only will it be great exercise, but cheering for the game helps keep her mind occupied when she is not playing.
Like I said, I don't know anything about either of you. Some of these you may have tried, maybe everything, and maybe nothing I've said will work. But I'd rather throw it out there as a possibility than not.
I'm glad you are talking with her therapist. Maybe the therapist can give you some more ideas of things she may want to do that will help her.
She may have to hit that brick wall. In fact, probably will. In that case, all you can do is be there to help her up. Just be sure to allow her to learn from it, though. Don't go after her cleaning up the mess without her learning anything from it!! Then, it will just happen again. You have to allow her to make her mistakes and suffer the consequences. Granted, it will most likely take her longer to learn than most "normal" people. You have to take away the safety net, grit your teeth, and watch her fall. Yes, I can probably just about guarantee that her poor choices will cost her something. And it's 10 times worse because she is in school. But, better to allow her to lean those lessons now when the consequences are smaller. School does not last forever. And even though it seems that when something happens, "her life is over"--she will learn that after school is when life really starts. School can be put behind you. If she waits to hit that brick wall when she is an adult, especially if you are not there to help her, the consequences can be much worse. (losing a great job, not going to college, failed marriage, etc).
You're a great mom. You are doing a great job, and doing everything you can. I wish my mom had been that way. I wasn't diagnosed officially til my 30s. I had the symptoms at least in high school. My mom never realized it then, even though she has two brothers with it. Even when I told her I had been officially diagnosed, she still tried to downplay it, kept talking about how mine could not possibly be anywhere as bad as my two uncles. Instead of help, I got denial. And,yes, that did hurt.
I hit my wall in my 30s. It had cost me a college education ( I couldn't handle it), and many jobs (the longest I held one was a year and a half). It almost cost me my job now and my now husband. I had a great boss and a man who helped me (yes, they are out there). Now that I understand it a lot better, I can more easily control it. Well, most of the time. And, yes, I use the word "easily" loosely--basically it's just less hard to control.
 
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Thank you so much for the great response. It couldn't have come at a more appropriate time. She's in the throws of what I guess is a manic episode today. Its pretty bad. She escalated rather furociously and I just remained calm and chose to not engage - it was really hard but once she figured out she wasn't getting what she wanted from me, she settled. I don't think she's done, but at least its calm for the moment.

Her therapist says this will be a long road for her. I really hate to see her struggle. She's a beautiful girl and I tell her that she needs to focus on herself right now that God will send the right guy in the right timing. But alas she refuses to listen. My sister-in-law talk her that "unhealthy is attracted to unhealthy" that as long as she's in an unhealthy place the guys that will see her out will also be unhealthy - and this has been true.

I know that its easy to say at my age, but for her, dating is all she thinks of - she just wants to be like everyone else, despite the fact she's not. sigh I think its that struggle that we contend with more than anything - and if she could just accept this for now, she could focus more on her other issues to move forward so one day she'd be able to have a decent boyfriend.

Again thanks for the response - I truly appreciate it. You give me hope. :)
 
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You are doing the right thing sticking to your guns!! I know it's hard!! Just keep reminding yourself that giving in will only make the situation worse. Remind yourself that this isn't really "her". Not the real her. You are fighting against the bipolar--you aren't really fighting her. Think of it as an intruder holding her hostage. That may make it a bit easier to bear. If it was an intruder, you would fight tooth and nail. And if she happened to get hurt in the process, it's still a heck of a lot less hurt than if you allowed the intruder to win! And it sounds to me like you really have a handle on rule #1 in dealing with a bipolar person--remember that they don't mean what they say when they get like that. Never take it personally. That just makes it worse when they come back to "reality".
Your sister-in-law is very correct here. But, of course, don't tell your daughter that--she would get upset and wouldn't believe you anyway. When you are watching her struggle in the boy department, just remind yourself that she is actually better off without right now. She is very vulnerable, and could very easily get taken advantage of. You never know. That guy who hung in there for a while (sounds like a nice guy) may even come back at some point. Just keep reminding yourself that teenage girls have problems with boys no matter who they are, so you would be seeing her struggle most likely either way, anyway.
You will get through this. She will get through this. Of course, it won't be easy. But it will be worth every cringe moment.
You are definitely on the right track. You didn't engage, and saw that it calmed her down--at least for the moment. That's a step in the right direction. Calmness helps. Definitely. You have to be the strong one here, and you are. Again, my hat's off to you. If she gets mean, just respond with "I love you". (that one helped me).
I know it's hard. Use this forum as a sounding board, if you wish, and if it helps. Complain to a friend of a confidant. There's nothing wrong with that. I know things bipolar people say can hurt, and hurt deeply. And I also know, if it hasn't already, it will hurt you to be firm with her, even though you know it's for her own good. But you need to get it out somewhere. Tell a friend, say it here, write it down (make sure she does not see it), you can even private message me if you wish--I promise it won't make my eyes fall out!! (just know I'm only on the computer half the week usually if you don't get a response right away). That does not mean you don't love her--that does not mean you are "hating on" her. It just means you are taking care of yourself and your own feelings so that you can better take care of her. You are not complaining about her--you are complaining about that bipolar intruder holding her hostage. Oh, and I don't mean you have to (but can if you want) tell every little thing. Or even give any specifics at all. In fact, I'm not telling you you have to say (write) anything at all--it's just a suggestion, and I'm telling you it's ok if you feel you need to. And know that I'm behind you 100%. And I understand.
 
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