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Bill Nye The Science Guy

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He is good at practical science, but pretty outspoken against Christianity.








True, but that doesn't mean that we can't enjoy the show for what it is. :)
 
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He is good at practical science, but pretty outspoken against Christianity.

IIRC he is mostly against creationism, geocentrism, flat earth beliefs, etc. Not Christianity in general.
 
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That's basically the same thing.

Not any Christianity I or millions of others practice(d). I never would have considered any of those things anything but laughable and never heard them preached.
 
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That's basically the same thing.
YEC does not require platygeism or geo-centrism any more than helio-centrism, atomic theory et al. require the Big Bang theory. To say otherwise is just arrogance.

I worked in STEM fields effectively (before retiring) while still embracing a modified YEC cosmology. Here-and-now science is our common ground.
 
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Asking Yahweh to remove the blinders from his mind and let thim see the wonderful news of Christ.
. "...for their minds have been blinded by the god of this age, leaving them in unbelief. Their blindness keeps them from seeing the dayspring light of the wonderful news of the glory of Jesus Christ, who is the divine image of God." II Cor 4:4
 
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This is a fascinating chain of messages. All without an atheist to muddy the waters (till now).

IIRC he is mostly against creationism, geocentrism, flat earth beliefs, etc. Not Christianity in general.

Strathos' pretty reasonable description of Bill Nye's focus.

That's basically the same thing.

Rose's apparently ambiguous response.

Not any Christianity I or millions of others practice(d). I never would have considered any of those things anything but laughable and never heard them preached.

Hans the TE Christian assuming "same thing" referred to being pro-science and anti-Christian.

YEC does not require platygeism or geo-centrism any more than helio-centrism, atomic theory et al. require the Big Bang theory. To say otherwise is just arrogance.

I worked in STEM fields effectively (before retiring) while still embracing a modified YEC cosmology. Here-and-now science is our common ground.

Whereas Sabertooth, the Creationist Christian assumed "same thing" was referring to ordinary Creationism and some slightly less popular ideas in opposition to mainstream science.



When I read it my interpretation was along with that Hans Blaster's interpretation. Maybe we are all kind of spoiling for a fight and assume people are disagreeing with us?
 
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This is a fascinating chain of messages. All without an atheist to muddy the waters (till now).

Not quite there buddy!

Strathos' pretty reasonable description of Bill Nye's focus.



Rose's apparently ambiguous response.

I thought Rose was fairly straight forward. Being anti(stuff) was being anti-Christian

Hans the TE Christian assuming "same thing" referred to being pro-science and anti-Christian.

If TE is "theistic evolution", then I've never been such. Sagan's Cosmos got to me first and they never tried to shove any kind of alternative down our throats in church. (Small mercies!) I ain't been a christian in nearly 20 years.


Whereas Sabertooth, the Creationist Christian assumed "same thing" was referring to ordinary Creationism and some slightly less popular ideas in opposition to mainstream science.


When I read it my interpretation was along with that Hans Blaster's interpretation. Maybe we are all kind of spoiling for a fight and assume people are disagreeing with us?

Perhaps. I only responded because of the geography issues tied to Christianity. Fortunately few try to tie these false models of the planet and solar system to Christianity.
 
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Whereas Sabertooth, the Creationist Christian assumed "same thing" was referring to ordinary Creationism and some slightly less popular ideas in opposition to mainstream science.
There are two main views of contemporary science,
  • A. a spheroid Earth orbiting the Sun; atomic theory; animals (and other kingdoms) being arranged by their similarities and, now, by DNA traits; an objective understanding of the human body & other creatures, etc.
  • B. a flat, geo-centric "earth;" (I'm not sure how they deal with the other items...)
There are two main views of pre-history,
  1. The Big Bang and the "accidental" production of life (whether theistic or not).
  2. Young Earth Creationism; the sudden appearance of life.
So many people try to make 1-A & 2-B into the only choices for cosmology, but I (and most Christians that I know in person) subscribe to a 2-A cosmology. It is intellectually dishonest to insist that that combination is rare or cannot exist, at all.

(One of my recent interests is Forensic Genealogy.
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There are two main views of contemporary science,
  • A. a spheroid Earth orbiting the Sun; atomic theory; animals (and other kingdoms) being arranged by their similarities and, now, by DNA traits; an objective understanding of the human body & other creatures, etc.
  • B. a flat, geo-centric "earth;" (I'm not sure how they deal with the other items...)
There are two main views of pre-history,
  1. The Big Bang and the "accidental" production of life (whether theistic or not).
  2. Young Earth Creationism; the sudden appearance of life.
So many people try to make 1-A & 2-B into the only choices for cosmology, but I (and most Christians that I know in person) subscribe to a 2-A cosmology. It is intellectually dishonest to insist that that combination is rare or cannot exist, at all.

(One of my recent interests is Forensic Genealogy.
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Wait, did you just put Flat Earth into the category of a "main view of contemporary science?
 
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