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:tutu: Hi there.

I posted this question in another area, but i'm wanting to know what the Bible says about the matter.

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Is it wrong for a Christian to take prescribed psych medication? Like antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stablizers, etc? Is there anything in the Bible that would support or condemn this practice? Is there a valid doctrine that would support or condemn this practice?

The responses i had were what i hear from most Christians who know i'm on anti Ds again. That is, that it's okay to be on meds, it's just like a diabetic who needs insulin, and God uses today's medicine to heal people.

Is it religious to think that God only heals the way Jesus did, like someone lays hands on you and you're all better? Cos although prayer has helped me alot, i've had to fight this on all fronts, including medication.

Anyway, i just wanna know what the Bible has to say. Any insight you have would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx

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:tutu: Hi there.

I posted this question in another area, but i'm wanting to know what the Bible says about the matter.

This question is:

Is it wrong for a Christian to take prescribed psych medication? Like antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stablizers, etc? Is there anything in the Bible that would support or condemn this practice? Is there a valid doctrine that would support or condemn this practice?

The responses i had were what i hear from most Christians who know i'm on anti Ds again. That is, that it's okay to be on meds, it's just like a diabetic who needs insulin, and God uses today's medicine to heal people.

Is it religious to think that God only heals the way Jesus did, like someone lays hands on you and you're all better? Cos although prayer has helped me alot, i've had to fight this on all fronts, including medication.

Anyway, i just wanna know what the Bible has to say. Any insight you have would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx

oneofthem

Personally, I don't believe it is wrong to be on anti-depressants. My wife has struggled with Chronic Disthymia (long-term, low-grade depression) for most of her life. There have been some meds that have really helped her.

I don't know that there's a specific Scriptural exhortation either banning or demanding Christians in regards to this. However, Paul does encourage Timothy to "take a little wine for your stomach" - which would have been, in some ways, a medication.

I do not, however, believe we ought to simply use medications as a way of not having to deal with any of our "issues". God is very much interested in the "whole" person.

I don't believe this answers too much for you, but I certainly do not condemn you for using anti-depressants to try to survive a mental illness.
 
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I know of nothing biblical that would speak against taking medication for any illness, including psychiatric illness.

While I believe that God can heal instantaneously and miraculously, I also believe that he works through doctors and other health care providers, medications, counseling, and other methods. Whatever route you find to healing, give Him the glory, because He is behind it.
 
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G-d gave men knowledge in order to heal...yes miracles can still happen, but take the meds, G-d provided teh knowledge and elements they're comprised of...

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:tutu: Hi there.

I posted this question in another area, but i'm wanting to know what the Bible says about the matter.

This question is:

Is it wrong for a Christian to take prescribed psych medication? Like antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stablizers, etc? Is there anything in the Bible that would support or condemn this practice? Is there a valid doctrine that would support or condemn this practice?

The responses i had were what i hear from most Christians who know i'm on anti Ds again. That is, that it's okay to be on meds, it's just like a diabetic who needs insulin, and God uses today's medicine to heal people.

Is it religious to think that God only heals the way Jesus did, like someone lays hands on you and you're all better? Cos although prayer has helped me alot, i've had to fight this on all fronts, including medication.

Anyway, i just wanna know what the Bible has to say. Any insight you have would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx

oneofthem

The Bible has precious little to say about substances other than alcohol.

I am not a professinal in ANY way, shape or form, so my advice here is second hand and layman.

I worked in a pharmacy for almost two years when I was younger. I met with and talked to numerous pharmacists, doctors, and nurses. I can tell you one piece of advice they ALL agreed on: take as little medicine as you possibly can. The less, the better.

They also had a LOT of negative things to say about the way Americans use drugs (I worked in the US at the time). They HATED ADHD drugs with a passion, and hoped that they would be labeled illegal.

I took anti-depressant drugs for a brief period of time when I was younger, and the pharmacists recommended I quit. One pharmacist, who was also a pastor of a local Baptist church, highly recommended that I quit using them; he felt they were unnecessary.

There are also studies linking suicide with anti-depressants (but, supposedly, these people were already depressed anyway).

For the VAST majority of all medicines, the exact mechanism by which they work is listed as unknown. Check your package inserts, you know, that really small folded up piece of paper that looks horribly borning and technical. Read how it says your medicine works, and most will say 'The exact mechanism by which this medication works is unknown.'

As unknown, we really do not know the long-term effects of the drugs we are taking. The motto of the day should be, if it's not necessary for your health, think long and hard about whether to take the medicine or not.

My anti-depressant made me lose weight from an already skinny frame, and it made me feel strangely happy (it made me act differently, and even stupidly at times).
 
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There are some religious sects that totally abstain from any kind of medicine. Unless you belong to one of those groups, how are presribed psychiatric drugs any different from other medicines? Would you have any reservations taking, say, blood pressure medication or diabetes medication?

Having said that, I would also mention that I believe Western medicine relies too heavily on pills--any kind, not just psychiatric drugs. Medication helps, but I think doctors are too quick to prescribe drugs when there might be other alternatives, albeit maybe requiring more work. I see a lot of, particularly older people, who may visit different doctors, and they might prescribe different medications on top of what they are already taking and as a result end up overdosing and conflict. That's why it's really important to be proactive in your own healthcare and not just accept unquestioningly what one doctor tells you.
 
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I worked in a pharmacy for almost two years when I was younger. I met with and talked to numerous pharmacists, doctors, and nurses. I can tell you one piece of advice they ALL agreed on: take as little medicine as you possibly can. The less, the better.

I think that's great advice. Thanks!
 
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:tutu: Hi there.

I posted this question in another area, but i'm wanting to know what the Bible says about the matter.

This question is:

Is it wrong for a Christian to take prescribed psych medication? Like antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stablizers, etc? Is there anything in the Bible that would support or condemn this practice?

I just want to mention something.
While it's true that some people suffer clinical depression, severe anxiety etc.
I have noticed that most of the tv ads are geared to put fear in us so that we will go to our docs asking for (whatever drug they're pushing that day).

If you must use meds, then by all means use them, but I find it hard to believe that the majority of my friends need to be on psych drugs.
(Most of my friends are on zoloft or whats that other one)

Sadness, depression... these can be real indications that something needs to be dealt with in our lives.
We were meant to feel.

So, nothing wrong with meds, but I think they're being way overused.

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There is nothing wrong with taking medication for mental illnesses. I have a few mental illnesses and I must take medication. I don't think I could believe in a God that would forbid me from taking the medications that keep me sane.
 
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The Bible has precious little to say about substances other than alcohol.

I am not a professinal in ANY way, shape or form, so my advice here is second hand and layman.

I worked in a pharmacy for almost two years when I was younger. I met with and talked to numerous pharmacists, doctors, and nurses. I can tell you one piece of advice they ALL agreed on: take as little medicine as you possibly can. The less, the better.:thumbsup:

As unknown, we really do not know the long-term effects of the drugs we are taking. The motto of the day should be, if it's not necessary for your health, think long and hard about whether to take the medicine or not. :thumbsup:

I do not, however, believe we ought to simply use medications as a way of not having to deal with any of our "issues". God is very much interested in the "whole" person.:thumbsup:

I just want to mention something.
While it's true that some people suffer clinical depression, severe anxiety etc.
I have noticed that most of the tv ads are geared to put fear in us so that we will go to our docs asking for (whatever drug they're pushing that day).:thumbsup:

If you must use meds, then by all means use them, but I find it hard to believe that the majority of my friends need to be on psych drugs.
(Most of my friends are on zoloft or whats that other one)

Sadness, depression... these can be real indications that something needs to be dealt with in our lives.
We were meant to feel.:thumbsup:

So, nothing wrong with meds, but I think they're being way overused.:thumbsup:

sunlover

There are some religious sects that totally abstain from any kind of medicine. Unless you belong to one of those groups, how are presribed psychiatric drugs any different from other medicines? Would you have any reservations taking, say, blood pressure medication or diabetes medication?

Yes, I would. I'd try to change my lifestyle FIRST and try using alternative medicine.

Having said that, I would also mention that I believe Western medicine relies too heavily on pills--any kind, not just psychiatric drugs. Medication helps, but I think doctors are too quick to prescribe drugs when there might be other alternatives, albeit maybe requiring more work.:thumbsup:.


My thoughts. I do believe that the Western world are TOO dependent on using prescriptive medication, including OTC medicine. It's better to try safer alternatives FIRST before using prescription drugs. What helps me with my issues is pet companionship, going outside to get fresh air, listening to music, drinking tea, having hobbies and getting enough sleep
 
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All healing is from God. Drugs, time, surgery, medication, instaneous healing - they are all from God.

Doctors often prescribe drugs for depression because research shows that they work. The combination of drug and talk therapy is the most effective one for depression. Finding the right one in the right dose can be quite a challenge, and IMHO, is way too often done by regular doctors and not by psychiatrists who are way more familiar with the research and "off lable" results.
 
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:tutu: Hi there.

I posted this question in another area, but i'm wanting to know what the Bible says about the matter.

This question is:

Is it wrong for a Christian to take prescribed psych medication? Like antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stablizers, etc? Is there anything in the Bible that would support or condemn this practice? Is there a valid doctrine that would support or condemn this practice?

The responses i had were what i hear from most Christians who know i'm on anti Ds again. That is, that it's okay to be on meds, it's just like a diabetic who needs insulin, and God uses today's medicine to heal people.

Is it religious to think that God only heals the way Jesus did, like someone lays hands on you and you're all better? Cos although prayer has helped me alot, i've had to fight this on all fronts, including medication.

Anyway, i just wanna know what the Bible has to say. Any insight you have would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx

oneofthem
One thing the bible makes quite clear is that, while God sometimes acts miraculously, most of the time he acts through ordinary processes and ordinary people.

The bible certainly supports the use of medicines (eg wine for one's stomach), and psych medications are no different from other medications.

If anyone suggests you shouldn't seek medical assistance for your illness I suggest you break their arm and tell them the only acceptable treatment is prayer.
 
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The Bible has precious little to say about substances other than alcohol.

I am not a professinal in ANY way, shape or form, so my advice here is second hand and layman.

I worked in a pharmacy for almost two years when I was younger. I met with and talked to numerous pharmacists, doctors, and nurses. I can tell you one piece of advice they ALL agreed on: take as little medicine as you possibly can. The less, the better.

They also had a LOT of negative things to say about the way Americans use drugs (I worked in the US at the time). They HATED ADHD drugs with a passion, and hoped that they would be labeled illegal.

I took anti-depressant drugs for a brief period of time when I was younger, and the pharmacists recommended I quit. One pharmacist, who was also a pastor of a local Baptist church, highly recommended that I quit using them; he felt they were unnecessary.

There are also studies linking suicide with anti-depressants (but, supposedly, these people were already depressed anyway).

For the VAST majority of all medicines, the exact mechanism by which they work is listed as unknown. Check your package inserts, you know, that really small folded up piece of paper that looks horribly borning and technical. Read how it says your medicine works, and most will say 'The exact mechanism by which this medication works is unknown.'

As unknown, we really do not know the long-term effects of the drugs we are taking. The motto of the day should be, if it's not necessary for your health, think long and hard about whether to take the medicine or not.

My anti-depressant made me lose weight from an already skinny frame, and it made me feel strangely happy (it made me act differently, and even stupidly at times).
I agree with much that fox had to say.

That being said, My life has been destroyed by prescriptions drugs, starting with "psychotropic" meds.
I won't go into the spill, because its long, but in a nutshell, when I got divorced (something that most people would normally get depressed for anyway) I ended up on a roller coaster of diagnosese, (%5 different ones?) as well as meds, then one of the medications which was a new "miracle" drug, ended up inducing body wide chronic pain. I struggled with my job, and trying to jump through all the hoops, that were placed in front of me, and ended up on pain meds, in a vain attempt to keep what was a crummy job in the first place, well Guess what, one of those medications caused some sort of severe allergic like/whithdrawall type reaction, which has basically crippled, me, and I not only lost my crummy job, but now I can't really do much else either.
So while I am not saying never see the doctor, and never take any pills, make goood and sure its not something you will get over yourself, first, and research, Many people are quick to call mental illnesses a disease, etc, but ask the very same doctors about the demons Jesus cast out, and what do you suppose will be their reply?
Psychiatry, is far diferent than Medical doctors, in that its mostly based on the opinions of a hand full of men, rather than any real research.
Plus the field is in a Rapid state of change, so much so that in just a few short years old text books become completely obsolete(I ised to buy into it, so i know for sure, its terrifying, if not discusting how much the "field" has changed in the past 20-30 years.

I do not have a reference so if anyone else does, I would love to hear it, because i have been called out on it before, But I heard somewhere that the US uses 90% of the GLOBES psychiatric medication.
Chew on that a bit before you go off and pop some pills.
 
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by that reasoning i assume you believe he invented crack cocain, meth, heroin, etc?

Yes! Yes He did!

We have not necessarilly learned how to use these things, or we refuse to use them. Heroin is a wonderful pain med for those who are teminally ill. It can manage pain that a lot of other drugs can't. The only downside is addiction, which is not a big concern if one is dying. But we've made it illegal!
 
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Setting aside the issue of illegal drugs, I think it would be safe to say that God gave us the ability to learn about our bodies and about the chemistry of the world he created. We can use this knowledge to do his healing work. Antibiotics, vaccinations, insulin, and all sorts of medications have been used to treat illnesses that might very well be fatal otherwise. We can be thankful for the blessings of medicine.

This in no way discounts the concern of over-medicating; that is an issue of how we put this knowledge to use. As with all good things, chemical science can be abused, as in the case of recreational use of dangerous drugs. So also there is a legitimate concern when doctors rely on drug therapies to the exclusion of other effective methods.

However, just because over-medicating is sometimes a problem doesn't mean that it is always a problem. In the case of psychiatric treatment, many people are afraid or ashamed to get treatment, and it is important that they realize that prescriptions can be an important part of their health, just as much as if they had any other medical condition. Medicine isn't always the answer for any health condition, but it exists for a reason, and there are people who legitimately need to make use of drugs for optimal health.

Let's be careful that in this discussion, we realize the continuity between psychiatric and other fields of medicine; let's not give the impression that the problems are limited to psych meds, while the benefits are limited to other meds. That is a common misconception, and I want to be sure we don't perpetuate it here.
 
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Food for thought.

Why is it their are countless historical examples of people psychiatrist have labled as having a mental disorder.

lincoln comes to mind in particular.

they use him as an example of a sufferer, yet, they portray it off like the medications they prescribe will "cure" one while they are medicated.

But they fail to address, or eve nacknoledge, that the medications change the way people think. Sounds good if the thinking is proportedly detrimental, yet, would you really want to medicate the Beneficial part from someone?

sure you suffer, we all suffer, but the only ones calling it a problem are psychiatrist.
an oyster will make no pearls if it has no irritant.
sometimes the verything we think we need to be rid of is what drives us most.

its so ironic to hear about them speaking of "self medicating"
yet 9 times out of 10, they want you to trade one drug for another.

I was watching the history chanel talking about how many illegal drugs were once legal and prominent, cocaine, opium, etc,
and the also spoke of the mass addictions, while on these, until they were slowly made illegal, thus putting many busness under.
and makig many others stronger.

medications are RARELY the anwser for our problems.
I meana think about it, how many psychiatric meds are prescribes for short term vs long term use?

To take a pill for the REST OF YOUR LIFE to alter your perceptions, and modes of thinking. and yet they demonize alcoholics.
 
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To take a pill for the REST OF YOUR LIFE to alter your perceptions, and modes of thinking. and yet they demonize alcoholics.

If they could get a kickback from alcohol, they'd be pushing that too!

Watch tv for a couple of hours and count the pharmaceutical commercials.

And Americans follow like sheep.

:groupray:
 
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