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Actually, many still do, even though it is illegal.
How come christians don't eat only Kosher food?
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No, thanks --- you contrast them if you want to --- the "Hindu holy books" can take a hike.
How's come the Hindu don't practice the Caste System today?
Yes... your point being? It's rather hard to extrapolate your argument from what little your post reveals.I said INDIA, didn't I?
Several reasons in one:So... anyone have a valid argument as to why the bible is better than the Veda et al.?
Several reasons in one:
And yet all 66 books go together like a hand in a glove.
- It was written over a period of 1500 years
- By over 40 authors
- On 3 continents
- In 3 languages
- Under various conditions: war, peace, civil unrest
- Who held a variety of vocations from fisherman to king
- And held various attitudes toward their Inspirer
And yet It is the best seller of all time.
And yet despite efforts by even the world's most powerful empire to eradicate It, It still stands.
Even time is measured by the appearance of the Son of Its Author.
It also contains the history of the world written --- in advance --- and so far, fulfilled with 100% accuracy.
My vote is Biblical Creationism --- thanks ---1) The Veda's written origin date anywhere from 1500BC to 6,000BC depending on who you ask...
2) It's unknown how many authors the Veda had...
4)It's unknown what dialects it went through ... I think ...
6) Seriously though, if we assume they're both just books it's unknown...
My vote is Biblical Creationism --- thanks ---
Not a problem, my friend --- I can be just as jerkish ---And btw AV, I apologize for being curt and jerkish with you earlier today, my pain pills were wearing off and I couldn't take more yet.
Not a problem, my friend --- I can be just as jerkish ---
Sorry you're on pain medication --- I know what it's like ---
Several reasons in one:
- It was written over a period of 1500 years
- By over 40 authors
Whose book was written first is irrelevant. The Holy bible clearly describes that many people around the world were worshipping false Gods and performing false practices, and it was because of these acts that the Father finally decided it was time to make himself, his word, and the truth known to the masses. Although, some knew the truth and had worshipped and followed the Lord from the very beginning.
Unfortunately for me it takes this thing called proof to define truth. The point of this thread is that many people claim the bible as an inerrant source of information, and so I want to see some facts backing this claim up against another set of books claimed to be an inerrant source of information. Since your claim is 'My holybook is truer than that other holybook, but I can't prove it because doing so relies on circular logic or referencing circumstances that are beyond mine or your ability to perceive without dying. So you have to take me at my word' is vacuous, it fails as proof.So, why is Christianity superior to all others (which are mostly philosophical), is because it is the truth. Can I prove it? I can, but sadly it would require you to die, which you will someday, as will I. The difference being, if I am right (and I am), My energy source spirit I will continue to live in the kingdom of Heaven, and your's will not.
So...
Several reasons in one:
And yet all 66 books go together like a hand in a glove.
- It was written over a period of 1500 years
- By over 40 authors
- On 3 continents
- In 3 languages
- Under various conditions: war, peace, civil unrest
- Who held a variety of vocations from fisherman to king
- And held various attitudes toward their Inspirer
And yet It is the best seller of all time.
And yet despite efforts by even the world's most powerful empire to eradicate It, It still stands.
Even time is measured by the appearance of the Son of Its Author.
It also contains the history of the world written --- in advance --- and so far, fulfilled with 100% accuracy.
1) The Veda's written origin date anywhere from 1500BC to 6,000BC depending on who you ask, but were passed from generation to generation via oral tradition long before that. This addition of oral tradition makes it very difficult to date how long it took for the Vedas to develop, but it's certainly longer than 1500 years. This also means that the Veda are older than the Bible, Koran, or Torah
2) It's unknown how many authors the Veda had, many believe that they were handed down directly from Brahma and inspired by Vishnu, but I'm not a believer in Gods and supernatural. There are unknown millinia of oral tradition behind the Vedas though, so every mouth uttering these ancient words is a potential author.
3) I'm sorry, my fudge fairy is tingling. This adds value how?
4) The Vedas were written in Vedic Sanskrit, a very ancient language indeed dating back to the Aryan civilization of the time. It's unknown what dialects it went through in it's early oral history, and I think oral history trumps written in terms of 'number of languages' games.
5) Same with the Vedas, no difference
6) The Vedas were passed down through oral history long before they were written down, many millenia ago. They even predate the creation of the Hindu caste system. It's believed that they have divine origin through Brahma. I didn't see a god listed directly in your list! Seriously though, if we assume they're both just books it's unknown how many people had a hand in the Veda's creation since it was at two points an oral tradition.
7) I have no clue how you devised this one. It could both speak for and against the value of the bible, so it's of little consequence to the discussion at hand.
The King James Version, which I think you prefer is written with fluidity and poeticism in mind. It's amazing what a group fo translators can accomplish in terms of fluidity, especially if they're very learned men. Now, how is it that the Vedas don't go together like a hand fits in a glove? After so many millenia and so much oral tradition, they seem pretty fluidic and fittably nice for each other to me!
As for it being a best seller, so you're letting public opinion vote your religious choices for you? That's a bit disengenious.
What empire tried to eliminate the bible, Rome? This period of christian persecution lasted around 320 some years. The British tried to wipe out Hinduism when they occupied India for almost 200 years. Further, during the Islamic occupation of the Indian subcontinent, the muslims persecuted and tried to wipe out the hindus. The Islamic persecution of the Hindus was even more savage than the british persecution, and this lasted from 800 AD to 1700 AD as one of the bloodiest conquests in written history. In any case, a persecution complex is not a reason for validity. Witchcraft, afterall, has been persecuted by Christianity for a good long time, but that gives it no more validity to me than Hinduism or Christianity.
Time is measured by the birth of Christ in Western societies which are predominantly Christian. The current calendars in use across the globe: Chinese, Christian, Indian, Islamic, Jewish, and more!
I contest your assertion that the bible predicts the future with 100% accuracy. I am, however, not a bible scholar and I didn't see this statement till after I posted my post, so I'll let someone else grab it since it'd take me a while to research the claim and my post is already out there. :-(
Nice sales pitch AV. Care to tell me what, apart from English, the other two languages were? And do you really think that the earliest book of the bible dates no earlier than the 1st/2nd century AD (1611-1500)?
Just as is the case with the Veda where it depends on whom you ask, it just as well depends on whom you ask in the case of the bible. The number that AV is touting here, the 1500 years, comes from more the fundamentalist end of the spectrum of opinions. I think more mainstream and scholary opinions, have the earliest books of the bible around 600-700 BC maybe with the latest ones dating to the 2nd century AD, which gives an overall span 700-800 years.
Check this out:
http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Mathematics_of_the_Vedas#First_usage_of_Pi
"In the Rigveda 1.105.17, a formula to find the area of a circle is mentioned showing that the Rishis knew of pi, approximating it to be equal to 22/7. It was used in the formula for the area of a circle"
So... anyone have a valid argument as to why the bible is better than the Veda et al.?
Unfortunately for me it takes this thing called proof to define truth. The point of this thread is that many people claim the bible as an inerrant source of information, and so I want to see some facts backing this claim up against another set of books claimed to be an inerrant source of information.
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