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Biblical Creationism versus Hindu Creationism

ragarth

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What proof is there that the bible trumps other holy books? For the purposes of this discussion I'll use Hinduism as the alternative to keep things clean, and the holybooks for Hindus are:

The four Vedas (Rig Veda, Sama Veda, Yajur Veda and Atharva Veda), Puranas, Ramayana, Mahabharta etc.

So why is the bible more trust worthy in belief of a creator than these?
 

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I like what a commentator once said:
If Hinduism is true, then India should be a Paradise on Earth right now.
Also, qv please: 563.
 
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"If Hinduism is true, then India should be a Paradise on Earth right now."

This is poor logic. If Christianity were true, Palastine would be a paradise on earth right now

If Islam were true, the mideast would be a paradise on earth right now.

Unless you can prove your claim, this is a garbage statement.
 
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Um ... what?

Palestine would be a paradise on earth right now?

Does someone need a lesson in Dispensation Theology?

How long did Jesus say Jerusalem would be "trodden down of the Gentiles"?
 
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Um ... what?

Palestine would be a paradise on earth right now?

Does someone need a lesson in Dispensation Theology?

How long did Jesus say Jerusalem would be "trodden down of the Gentiles"?

Okay, and now contrast that with the Hindu holy books.
 
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Um ... what?

Palestine would be a paradise on earth right now?

Does someone need a lesson in Dispensation Theology?

How long did Jesus say Jerusalem would be "trodden down of the Gentiles"?

I'm genuinely curious to know what specific claims in Hinduism prompted the commentator to make that statement you mentioned in your previous post?

(Not just saying that for argument's sake, I'm genuinely curious - you have a good approach of at least looking at the specific claims of each religion.)
 
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do i detect a hijacking starting up here?

No, because contrasting the claims of each set of holy books is a valid way of deducing legitimacy. He gave a biblical quote that might work for proving the Palestinian problem, now he needs to provide a Hindu quote that would go against the India problem. If he does that then the debate specializes as to why each is a valid quote for the issues they're being applied to.
 
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Okay, and now contrast that with the Hindu holy books.
No, thanks --- you contrast them if you want to --- the "Hindu holy books" can take a hike.

How's come the Hindu don't practice the Caste System today?
 
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QV please.

Kashmir is regarded as paradise...
 
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No, thanks --- you contrast them if you want to --- the "Hindu holy books" can take a hike.

How's come the Hindu don't practice the Caste System today?

And *that* would be an attempted threadjack.

It's not my job to make your argument for you, without facts to back your claim, I can only assume that you are indirectly admitting that you have nothing to back up your claim that the Hindu holybooks claim that India should be a paradise right now, and so have no method to show the superiority of the bible over the Vedas et al.

With that, I'm afk. My arm feels like it's about to explode it's so painful. -.- I'll check my threads later.
 
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Wow --- mamma mia --- qv please: 11 .
 
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And *that* would be an attempted threadjack.

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"How's (sic) come" we can see them coming from over the horizon, and mostly from the same direction.

As for the op, I have been told the bible is more credible because it is true, and because it is older.
I dont know of other reasons.
 
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Wow --- mamma mia --- qv please: 11 .

I missed that one because I was writing my post while you were typing it. It takes me longer to write posts right now, I can't hold my arm in a typing position for more than a few moments at a time. I apologize for the sleight.
Kashmir is regarded as paradise as the original birth place of Aryan Hindus whose ancient homeland extended from Ganga-Yamuna rivers in the east to Araxes (Amu Darya) & Gomal rivers in west (Afghanistan). Kashmir upto Pamir (Mount Meru) in the north and confluence of River Saraswati and Arabian Sea in Gujarat formed the southern borders. From the ports of Gujarat commercial ships went around the world even during 3500 B.C, a few centuries before the ages of Ramayana and Mahabharata (3102 B.C) to Babylonia, Sumeria, Mesopotamia, etc. River Araxes is Arjikeya in Vedas, Kubha (Kabul) and Sveti (Swat valley in North Pakistan) rivers are regularly mentioned as western most extent of Aryandom. (Rig Veda - 10/75/5). Sea voyages for commerce clearly mentioned. (R. V - 1/116/3, 4/55/6, 7/88/3)

Kashmir was at the centre of this entire region. River Saraswati in its earliest form before changing course many a times and merging with Sutlej in West and Yamuna in East flowed from Indus in Kashmir to the Gujarat coasts via Punjab, Haryana and through Rajasthan forming the boundary of Mewar and Marwar regions. Northwest India to the west of Saraswati upto River Indus (also called Sushoma and Drishtavati for its prominent characteristics) was called Brahmavarta - the land of Aryan Rishis of Vedas, actually the original Aryan Hindu homeland. Kashmiri Hindu Pandits are the most pure and unmixed descendants of the ancient Aryans. They still have no caste divisions like the Vedic Aryans but later migrated throughout the world specially to the east in Aryavarta (North India) and to the west to Europe via Iran and Turkey (Hittite & Mittani Vedic Hindus) and Greece. Original Kashmiri Hindu migrants are hence also called Saraswats or people from Saraswati River bank. Like the Vedic people of Turkey (before advent of Turks & Islam) much of pagan Europe (before advent of Christianity) also followed corrupt form of Vedic Hinduism and their Gods. Hindus civilized Europe by making it their colony and gave them their languages like Iranian, born of Sanskrit like English, French, German, Greek, Latin, etc. Zend Avesta of Persians in actual Sanskrit spelling is 'Dhyan Abostha'!

So how does this state anything at all about the Hindu holy books? You clipped the first sentence in half from a text saying nothing about the Hindu Holybooks but rather giving a description of the pre 3500BC geopgraphy, then claimed it as proof that the Hindu holy books are wrong. This is completely and utterly fallacious.

edit: If you're conflating the Amu Darya with one of the Hindu Holybooks, it's the name of a river: http://student.britannica.com/comptons/article-9272847/Amu-Darya
 
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"utterly fallacious". see if you can get a concession of even 1% error.

taking a deep breath, but not planning to hold it 'till.
 
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