I can't believe this thread...
NamesAreHardToPick said:
As I've pointed out, the KJV has no contradictions.
No, you have not pointed that out; you have claimed it. I will now refute your claim:
Firstly, the angels present at the empty tomb:
Matthew and Mark:
Matthew 28:2-5 ".And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men. And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified...."
Mark 16:5 "And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted."
Now for Luke and John:
Luke 24:4-5 "And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments: And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead "
John 20:10-15 "Then the disciples went away again unto their own home. But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre, And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain. And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my LORD, and I know not where they have laid him. And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou?...."
Ok, so let's get this straight. In Mark, Matthew, and Luke the angel(s) appear when Mary and her comrades first get to the tomb. In John they appear to Mary alone after she has gone to the apostles. Also, John says that Mary sees the angels and the risen Christ at the same time and then Mary Magdalene went to the desciples with the news, but Mark says after seeing the angels that they said nothing to anyone because they were afraid, but later on Mary by herself sees Jesus risen and then goes to tell the disciples.
Secondly the staff:
Matthew 10:9-10 "Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,
10 Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat."
Luke 9:3 " And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece"
Mark 6:8 "And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse".
So, did Jesus tell his disciples to bring a staff/stave (they are synonyms; "staves" is actually a plural form for more than one staff) or not?
Lastly, the question of whether or not people die after God has created the new earth.
In Isaiah 65:20 it reads "There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed."
So, obviously, death will exist in the new world God creates; the child dies. One should also wonder what infants are doing in the new earth when Jesus said, "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Do the angels in heaven often make infants? Also, here it says that there are sinners; strange, ain't it?
In Revelation Jesus destroys death (Rev. 20:14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.") before the founding of the new Jerusalem. People cannot die when there is no death.
You can find thousands of websites dedicated to showing there are no contradictions in the KJV.
I couldn't. I found a few more about Biblical contradictions; none of them were devoted solely to KJV or addressed these examples. Please, prove me wrong, provide a link to
just one of these thousands of websites.
So if someone wants to use the NIV or NASB, that is fine, but they aren't written as well.
At least they haven't made the error of saying "Thou shalt commit adultery"... that was a misprint in a 1631 edition of the KJV you're aware?
God has preserved His Word in the Greek, Hebrew, and English. But the English, of all three is the poorest language so it's no surprise some newer versions have a few errors in it.
How does one qualify one language as being "poorer" than another? And why is it no surprise that the newer versions, not being manipulated by an absolute monarchy, would have more errors?
That's not God's fault, but man's fault
I'm not saying that any of these are God's fault.
Dr. Ruckman is always happy to answers people's problems in the KJV, you can contact his ministry at any time
By what method?
All the good ones are
**rolls eyes**
If you have a problem with God and His Word
STOP SAYING THIS. Jesus is God's Word, not the Bible!
Are you really serving God by trying to prove His Word to be a contradiction and a lie?
If I went around saying that there are no contradictions then I would be lying, because they are there. And I did not call the Bible a lie, nor did I call God a liar.
If you really think man is so smart that he can understand everything then fine believe it. If you really think that our perspective is not limited, then fine. Do you believe you have the same perspective as God? Do you believe you have the same knowledge as God? If not, then man is not as smart as he thinks he is and is looking at things from a limited perspective.
Are you even reading the passages I'm citing? This has absolutely,
ABSOLUTELY
nothing to do with perspective or with our limited perception, both of which I'm well aware of. One account says 2 angels, 2 say 1, and one says zero; what perspective am I missing that turns 2 into 1 into zero?
Wait! I get it now! There was one angel when Mary visited, but there were 2 angels, but there weren't any angels, and it doesn't contradict itself! Oh my gosh, how could i have missed it! God can make things contradictory but not contradictory just because we ourselves aren't God. Wow
And you know what this means; it means both origin theories are right! God created the universe 15 billion years ago and allowed life to evolve on earth but at the same time he created the universe 6 thousand years ago and blinked life into existance! They don't contradict each other! Holy smokes! I'm gunna go tell some people about this!!!!!!!!!
Have you forgotten what faith is?
Don't get inflammatory.