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Galactocentrism has not been falsified, in fact there is a lot of evidence that our galaxy is in the centre of the universe.
Galactocentricity - CreationWiki, the encyclopedia of creation science
Our galaxy is the centre of the universe, ‘quantized’ redshifts show
dictionary said:faith |fāθ|
noun
1 complete trust or confidence in someone or something : this restores one's faith in politicians.
2 strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
• a system of religious belief : the Christian faith.
• a strongly held belief or theory : the faith that life will expand until it fills the universe.
Galactocentrism has not been falsified, in fact there is a lot of evidence that our galaxy is in the centre of the universe.
Those definitions are missing something in this conversation, aren't they?dictionary
Those definitions are missing something in this conversation, aren't they?
Here, let me help:
Faith:
1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something, even when evidence says otherwise.
2. Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
3. A system of religious belief over evidence to the contrary.
4. A strongly held belief or theory, even when evidence says otherwise.
When psychiatrists get involved and start asking us if we:So AV -- in your opinion, when does faith cross the line into delusion?
Well, those definitions didn't account for 'evidence', and I'm wondering where 'evidence to the contrary' belongs in them.Those are your personal definitions, right?
Are you an authority on language?
When psychiatrists get involved and start asking us if we:
- Have ever been entertained at the thought of dying?
- Have ever talked to God, Satan, or an angel?
- See Christian symbols in inkblots?
Exactly, you are choosing how to interpret instead of just believing what God saysWho's misquoting? I simply choosing to interpret it differently to you. And unless you can give me some solid reason why your interpretation is better than mine, I ain't changing.
The things created were all created by God directly. He did not say let there be so and so and let it become another thing.And what was always God? The two lights?
The passage you quoted clearly refers to herbs and plants of the field. Now, isn't this talking about cultivated land? harvesting crops? It is NOT talking about wild plants! Crop plants have been artificially selected by Humans. Whereas the wild plants were naturally selected by evolution! Your argument does not apply!
Well, those definitions didn't account for 'evidence', and I'm wondering where 'evidence to the contrary' belongs in them.
What I'm suggesting -- and it's not even a suggestion, it is my (and others') opinion -- is that faith is believing in something when evidence says otherwise.What you're suggesting is that ALL the fields of natural science which converge on one conclusion - that the universe is old - are wrong.
When psychiatrists get involved and start asking us if we:
- Have ever been entertained at the thought of dying?
- Have ever talked to God, Satan, or an angel?
- See Christian symbols in inkblots?
You say you have understood the scriptures. Why then do so many christians disagree with your interpretation? Why does your interpretation not match reality if the universe should not contradict the bible? Why do many Christians (most?) interpret it differently from you? Are you infallible? Isn't the "faith" you promote in your OWN infallibility, not God's?
What I'm suggesting -- and it's not even a suggestion, it is my (and others') opinion -- is that faith is believing in something when evidence says otherwise.
And I'm not going to argue with you about it.
hogwash!.....
From the Word of God and world history -the real history, not the hogwash you were fed without learning to feed yourself.Where are you getting this stuff?
D “This is the dream. Now we will tell the interpretation of it before the king. 37 You, O king, are a king of kings. For the God of heaven has given you a kingdom, power, strength, and glory; 38 and wherever the children of men dwell, or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all—you are this head of gold.
39 But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to yours; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth. 40 And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others. 41 Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. 43 As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. 45 Inasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold—the great God has made known to the king what will come to pass after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure.”
Daniel 4
Nebuchadnezzar’s Second Dream
1 Nebuchadnezzar the king,
To all peoples, nations, and languages that dwell in all the earth:
Peace be multiplied to you.
2 I thought it good to declare the signs and wonders that the Most High God has worked for me.
3 How great are His signs,
And how mighty His wonders!
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And His dominion is from generation to generation.
4 I, Nebuchadnezzar, was at rest in my house, and flourishing in my palace. 5 I saw a dream which made me afraid, and the thoughts on my bed and the visions of my head troubled me. 6 Therefore I issued a decree to bring in all the wise men of Babylon before me, that they might make known to me the interpretation of the dream. 7 Then the magicians, the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers came in, and I told them the dream; but they did not make known to me its interpretation. 8 But at last Daniel came before me (his name is Belteshazzar, according to the name of my god; in him is the Spirit of the Holy God), and I told the dream before him, saying: 9 “Belteshazzar, chief of the magicians, because I know that the Spirit of the Holy God is in you, and no secret troubles you, explain to me the visions of my dream that I have seen, and its interpretation.
10 “These were the visions of my head while on my bed:
I was looking, and behold,
A tree in the midst of the earth,
And its height was great.
11 The tree grew and became strong;
Its height reached to the heavens,
And it could be seen to the ends of all the earth.
12 Its leaves were lovely,
Its fruit abundant,
And in it was food for all.
The beasts of the field found shade under it,
The birds of the heavens dwelt in its branches,
And all flesh was fed from it.
13 “I saw in the visions of my head while on my bed, and there was a Watcher, a holy one, coming down from heaven. 14 He cried aloud and said thus:
‘ Chop down the tree and cut off its branches,
Strip off its leaves and scatter its fruit.
Let the beasts get out from under it,
And the birds from its branches.
15 Nevertheless leave the stump and roots in the earth,
Bound with a band of iron and bronze,
In the tender grass of the field.
Let it be wet with the dew of heaven,
And let him graze with the beasts
On the grass of the earth.
16 Let his heart be changed from that of a man,
Let him be given the heart of a beast,
And let seven times pass over him.
17 ‘ This decision is by the decree of the Watchers [holy angels set over earth],
And the sentence by the word of the holy ones,
In order that the living may know
That the Most High rules in the kingdom of men,
Gives it to whomever He will,
And sets over it the lowest of men.’
18 “This dream I, King Nebuchadnezzar, have seen. Now you, Belteshazzar, declare its interpretation, since all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known to me the interpretation; but you are able, for the Spirit of the Holy God is in you.”
Daniel Explains the Second Dream
19 Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, was astonished for a time, and his thoughts troubled him. So the king spoke, and said, “Belteshazzar, do not let the dream or its interpretation trouble you.”
Belteshazzar answered and said, “My lord, may the dream concern those who hate you, and its interpretation concern your enemies!
20 “The tree that you saw, which grew and became strong, whose height reached to the heavens and which could be seen by all the earth, 21 whose leaves were lovely and its fruit abundant, in which was food for all, under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and in whose branches the birds of the heaven had their home— 22 it is you, O king, who have grown and become strong; for your greatness has grown and reaches to the heavens, and your dominion to the end [extremes]of the earth.
23 “And inasmuch as the king saw a Watcher, a holy one, coming down from heaven and saying, ‘Chop down the tree and destroy it, but leave its stump and roots in the earth, bound with a band of iron and bronze in the tender grass of the field; let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let him graze with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him’; 24 this is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the Most High, which has come upon my lord the king: 25 They shall drive you from men, your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make you eat grass like oxen. They shall wet you with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over you, till you know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He chooses.
26 “And inasmuch as they gave the command to leave the stump and roots of the tree, your kingdom shall be assured to you, after you come to know that Heaven rules. 27 Therefore, O king, let my advice be acceptable to you; break off your sins by being righteous, and your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor. Perhaps there may be a lengthening of your prosperity.”
Nebuchadnezzar’s Humiliation
28 All this came upon King Nebuchadnezzar. 29 At the end of the twelve months he was walking about the royal palace of Babylon. 30 The king spoke, saying, “Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for a royal dwelling by my mighty power and for the honor of my majesty?”
31 While the word was still in the king’s mouth, a voice fell from heaven: “King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is spoken: the kingdom has departed from you! 32 And they shall drive you from men, and your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field. They shall make you eat grass like oxen; and seven times shall pass over you, until you know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He chooses.”
33 That very hour the word was fulfilled concerning Nebuchadnezzar; he was driven from men and ate grass like oxen; his body was wet with the dew of heaven till his hair had grown like eagles’ feathers and his nails like birds’ claws.
Nebuchadnezzar Praises God
34 And at the end of the time[b] I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my understanding returned to me; and I blessed the Most High and praised and honored Him who lives forever:
For His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
And His kingdom is from generation to generation.
35 All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing;
He does according to His will in the army of heaven
And among the inhabitants of the earth.
No one can restrain His hand
Or say to Him, “What have You done?”
36 At the same time my reason returned to me, and for the glory of my kingdom, my honor and splendor returned to me. My counselors and nobles resorted to me, I was restored to my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added to me. 37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor the King of heaven, all of whose works are truth, and His ways justice. And those who walk in pride He is able to put down.
Nope, that would be this,
8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
No evolution or human selection, Just God made trees for food
OK, if you are willing to accept this answer. The Holy Bible translates itself. Faith is simply believing what God said. I simply believe what God said.
hogwash!
From the Word of God and world history -the real history, not the hogwash you were fed without learning to feed yourself.
Daniel 2, for starters:
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