Bible Code

Do any of you believe in the Bible Code? That God placed a secret code into the Bible that reveals certain things by computer? I read the 2 books, and thought it very interesting. What are your thoughts? Jen

I think it is entirely possible that God, in His infinite wisdom, was able to place some kind of code in the sequence of letters in the original texts of the scripture. I find it equally possible and somewhat more probable that these guys with superpowerful computers and more time and (grant) money than they know what to do with could find such a code whether it exists or not. Admittedly I haven't read the books you mention, but it sounds a little fishy to me.

pimorton said:

I think it is entirely possible that God, in His infinite wisdom, was able to place some kind of code in the sequence of letters in the original texts of the scripture. I find it equally possible and somewhat more probable that these guys with superpowerful computers and more time and (grant) money than they know what to do with could find such a code whether it exists or not. Admittedly I haven't read the books you mention, but it sounds a little fishy to me.

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they are interesting, also the History Channel did a documentary on them. I don't know how I feel about them 100%, but I wouldn't be suprised if they are real. God is complex, and therefore creates complexities. Jen

Well, as I recall they were able to apply the same formula used with the bible code to books like Moby Dick and get similiar results. Hard to take it as anything divine in that case.

SoupySayles said:

Well, as I recall they were able to apply the same formula used with the bible code to books like Moby Dick and get similiar results. Hard to take it as anything divine in that case.

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They found like 2 examples in Moby Dick, but thousands in the Bible. Jen

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No.

I read the bible codes at the book store and then somebody bought it for me for my birthday,not only did i not like the book,then i had to pretend I did.

I don't really agree with it either. The guy who wrote the books is not a Christian (if it is the same books I am thinking of), so it makes you wonder about his motives? (Wait,...do I hear a cash register?). I do agree with vinsight4u that we really should spend more time studying God's word. I have been just as guilty as the next person of trying to get information via "shortcuts" through books, etc., but have decided it really is in our best interest to just read God's word. That being said, there are many helpful books. They just cannot be our source above the Bible. IMO!

wannagohome said:

Do any of you believe in the Bible Code? That God placed a secret code into the Bible that reveals certain things by computer? I read the 2 books, and thought it very interesting. What are your thoughts? Jen

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I believe the bible code is real. The first man to do this was a Jewish man by the name of Yacov Rambsel. He has Messianic Ministries in Texas. He did it first without a computer, and thought that it was easier to do it that way. He is pretty old. Grant Jeffrey did it later also.

vinsight4u said:

Such as Habakkuk wrote a time is coming when -work a work -and so we also find this in the New Testament, showing Habakkuk's prophecy is yet to come about this Chaldean ruler

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Hab 2:3 -
For the vision is yet for an appointed time; But at the end it will speak, and it will not lie.

I still don't understand why people don't see Habakkuk as a future prophecy , to me it's obvious.

By His Grace said:

I believe the bible code is real. The first man to do this was a Jewish man by the name of Yacov Rambsel. He has Messianic Ministries in Texas. He did it first without a computer, and thought that it was easier to do it that way. He is pretty old. Grant Jeffrey did it later also.

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Yes, I wish I could look into it personally though, if only I could read Hebrew, which would be great, but hard and time consuming. Jen

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While it is possible, I think the Bible Code is reading too much into what the Bible really is: a collection of writings from the prophets, Apostles, and disciples of Christ. They are inspired by the Holy Spirit, but I don't think they're THAT inspired.

Besides, the Bible Code is about as useful as Nostradamus: no one sees the disasters until they've already happened. And then you say, "It was in there all along!" Riiiiiight.......

vinsight4u said:

Hooray for you Brain! It is indeed ahead of us!

In chapter 1 Habakkuk is shown a vision when Chaldeans will come against Israel. At chapter 2 he tells the LORD that he will get up on the tower -he is going to keep watch. God doesn't say -Hey, go do that Habakkuk -Warn the people as it any day now. Instead, God told him to write the vision down -make it plain - at the end it will speak.
Habakkuk would not be the one to run with the warning as in his day. He was told -that he may run that readeth it.

This prophecy is to come to pass when Habakkuk is not around. God placed it at the end. Then a Chaldean man that is proud, is as death and desires to be as hell will gather the nations. He will come at the end, at the time appointed.
a proud man
is as death

Hey, the 4th seal rider comes in with the name of death. Is this the ac? Yes!
Then -hell followed with him
a rider with two names
death and desires to be as hell
will gather the nations

Does the 4th seal show us without these clues from Habakkuk that the rider is the ac? Yes! He is shown with several ways to kill people and thus that means the sealing of the 144,000 has to occur right before his reign of terror.
They must be sealed before any of the seven trumpets can begin.

4th seal -Habakkuk's Chaldean proud man prophecy

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Yes and i agree that we are shown the AC here . ( The proud man )

I would love to discuss this with you more Vin but i don't have time at the moment , and plus i would need to re-read that book as i haven't read it in over a year or more , and i'm flat out trying to finish a book i'm reading at the moment.

Maybe we could start a thread on it one day ..

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wannagohome said:

Do any of you believe in the Bible Code?

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No.

That God placed a secret code into the Bible that reveals certain things by computer?

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No

What are your thoughts?

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I think it is just another gimmick to sell more books. I stack that one up next to the daVinci code.

Big Mouth Nana said:

I believe the bible code is real. The first man to do this was a Jewish man by the name of Yacov Rambsel. He has Messianic Ministries in Texas. He did it first without a computer, and thought that it was easier to do it that way. He is pretty old. Grant Jeffrey did it later also.

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Actually Ya'akov Ramsel was not the first to discover nor utilize the Bible Code. He was, however, the first to search for and find the Name of Yeshua (Jesus) encoded within the Hebrew Scripture. His most notable discovery was finding not only the Name of Yeshua in Isaiah 53, but also the names of everyone involved in His crucifixion, the disciples, The High Priest's name Caiphas, His mother's name, etc etc. And in the finding of the Name Yeshua, Ramsel found it to say "Yeshua Sh'mi" which means, "Yeshua is My Name".

Someone had pointed out that such encoding was found in Moby Dick. This isn't completely true. The problem is, that you can find some sort of encoding in virtually any written work. However, what you will more than likely find is something that will not have any thing to do with the context of the work you find it in. With the Bible codes, You find not only the names of Biblical characters, but you find them within the context of the text about them. Yeshua, in particular, is found in every single prophecy concerning Him. In prophecies of things that have come to pass already, whether plain or alluded to in context, you find the information concerning them encoded, such as the Uni-bomber, the Assassination of the Israeli Prime Minister, etc etc.

In Proverb 30:4

Who has ascended to heaven and come down?
Who has gathered the wind in His fists?
Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is His Name, and what is His Son's Name?
Surely you know!

In the Hebrew, where it says: "What is His Son's Name?" in the Hebrew word "Shem" (Shin-Mem Sophith), meaning "Name"; from the Shin count 570 letters backwards you come to Yod, thus you have forward, Yod-Shin. Continue forward 570 letters from the Shin and you come to Vav. 570 more and you come to Ayin. Yod-Shin-Vav-Ayin spells "Yeshua", the Name of the Messiah in Hebrew.

Okay, 570 is a little bit much, how about doing the same thing from the same letter in the same word, counting 224 letters? Yes, it is "Yeshua". Is that still a bit much? Okay, how about doing it by 22 letters from the same letter in the same word? Yes, this, too, is "Yeshua".

From the same statement "WHat is His Son's Name?" you have three witnessing codes to the same letter, Shin, the same name, "Yeshua", and answering the same question: "What is His Son's Name? Surely you know!" it is "Yeshua".



It should be noted, however, that the codes are not meant to be a system of divination. But what these codes do is prove a systematic and complex design within the confines of the Word of the Living God. In so doing, they prove the mastery of an Author beyond our own comprehension and existence.

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There are other forms of code in the Hebrew scriptures. There are Letter variation codes, where the letters alone have meaning, and they have a number which also has meaning. One such example is this:

My Personal Journal said:

It is said that Messiah was sacrificed from the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:8). Where then is this foundation to be seen? B'reshith (Genesis) 1:1: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth". In Hebrew this is: "B'reshith bara Elohim eth hashamayim v'eth haaretz." ... ... We find therefore that the heavens (Hashamayim) and the earth (Haaretz) are brought together, reconciled, through V'ETH (Vav-Aleph-Thav), in the statement "hashamayim v'eth haaretz". Vav is the sign of the Nail, Vav is the number Six, meaning Flesh or Man. Aleph is the sign of the Ox, which is also a form of Peace-offering, Aleph is the number One, meaning God. Thav is the Sign of the Cross, Thav is the number Four Hundred, meaning: "Godhead in another manner." (compare to Colossians 2:9 "...fullness of the Godhead bodily.") By this we see God (1), as a Man, or in Flesh (6), being another manner of the Godhead (400), is Nailed (Vav) as a Peace Offering (Aleph) to the Cross (Thav). And when we do a permutation of V'ETH, via AL-BaTH, it becomes "Tzalav" (Tzadde-Lamed-Veyth <Beyth pronounced as "V">), meaning: "Crucify".

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