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That's great advice. But how do you not call out to someone standing on the highway in front of a bus not to move out of the way.I have talked to some Christians about there involment in politics on boards like this one, but many see nothing wrong with it, in fact some think its our duty to do so. My advice to you is leave them alone if they refuse to listen, they will find out sooner or later.
Excellent post, Wisdom's Child. Thank you.Hebrews 5:12-14
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
1 Corinthians 6:1-3
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?
And if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Know ye not that we shall judge angels?
How much more things that pertain to this life?
On that point we agree....
Irrelevant to the arguement at hand...
(ref: wiki - Logical Falacies, #3 "No True Scottsman...")
A more than common Faux Pas, made by a person who is debating on shaky grounds.
...which is what I have done.
I quote scriptures, while you espouse your personal opinions.
John 5:39-47
<Words of Jesus>
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. I receive not honour from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Like in IRAQ right.No one said we have to join political parties...and we are most certainly told to make the world a better place..
1. By spreading the Gospel
2. By caring for those in need physically
Nothing limits us from entering politics or any other industry. What we do there is the important issue.
Fighting for them to have an environment that allows the Gospel to be preached? I really don't understand how Christians can be against this.
That's great advice. But how do you not call out to someone standing on the highway in front of a bus not to move out of the way.
Nothing I have ever read in the NT tells people to involve themselves in issues of the world and is in fact the very thing that can destroy their soul.
Thanks for the advise.
God Bless.
Would you please cite NT scripture to support your position that you should involve yourself in the world. Where anywhere are you encouraged to get yourself elected, fight anybody, or strive.In response to OP.....I was surprised to see this thread. Pastor Joel is my pastor. He does not tell us how to vote and whom to vote for. He tells us to vote because we are Christians and that we can influence the world with our biblical view through our voting.
Dr. Hunter is a man of God. He is humble and he loves the Lord. Maybe he makes mistakes, but don't we all? He lives his Christianity. His wife and his whole family are humble and his sons serve in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. We belong to a wealthy congregation but Pastor Joel lives in humility and has always given his whole life in service unlike these rich pastors jetting around and are living it up. Pastor Joel deserves love and respect. He is a man of God.
Your stance is dangerous. We ARE in this world and we are the salt of the world. If we lose our saltiness what good are we for? You cannot take yourself out of the world because you are Christian. That is called self-righteousness. We are to be fishers of men and to tell them of the love and forgiveness of Christ. We are not to be holier than thou and ineffective. We all need mercy because we are all sinners - not one is righteous.
this is a fantastic idea....
is there a website that lists bad preachers and bad churches. the stakes are obviously too high and there should be some sort of easily accessible internet site that lists preachers and congregations that are in danger of sending to people to hell.
this is a fantastic idea....
is there a website that lists bad preachers and bad churches. the stakes are obviously too high and there should be some sort of easily accessible internet site that lists preachers and congregations that are in danger of sending to people to hell.
That's not a good idea at all. Talk about asking judgement to come upon you.this is a fantastic idea....
is there a website that lists bad preachers and bad churches. the stakes are obviously too high and there should be some sort of easily accessible internet site that lists preachers and congregations that are in danger of sending to people to hell.
Eph 4:11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,
15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the headChrist 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.
Not conforming to this world isn't about outer stuff like going to a movie theatre or being involved with politics. It's much deeper than that.
I'm glad Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela got involved in politics and didn't leave it up to only corrupt people.
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