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Provide the names and addresses of those witnesses.I did. I showed how the information in Luke 1 and 1 Corinthians 15 was provided by eyewitness testimony. Are you denying the validity of the superiority of eyewitness testimony in court or in history?
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. ClarkeAnd even that had iron cross-bracing. You just can't make a wooden boat that big seaworthy.
In theory, it could float, as it would have been lighter than water; the question is, could it be kept from collapsing under its own weight without magic, iron age or otherwise.In theory it could "float". In practice, a much smaller vessel was found to not be able to survive on the open seas. Wyoming
And Noah's ark wasn't just out on calm, open seas, it was in the middle of the biggest torrential downpours in the history of the world, so...
Probably not. That Ken Ham fellow is involved in a project to rebuild Noah's ark... in Kansas. Not on water, just on land. So even people who really believe it's possible won't do it for real.In theory, it could float, as it would have been lighter than water; the question is, could it be kept from collapsing under its own weight without magic, iron age or otherwise.
Is that supposed to leave a hole in "science" big enough to pull your god through? Yet small enough that we don't release all of the prisoners from our jails?You can't scientifically examine history. It's impossible.
Is that supposed to leave a hole in "science" big enough to pull your god through? Yet small enough that we don't release all of the prisoners from our jails?
Sure. We can run the outplacement program from your home, and you can simply pray to your god that nothing goes wrong.I think we could release all of them on a rotating schedule to see which ones are an ongoing problem.
That would be a worthwhile experiment.
Provide the names and addresses of those witnesses.
How many eyewitnesses would convince you that a man levitated, then transformed himself into an elephant with heads on both ends?You are using an alleged 21st century approach to history. This is the first century. If you are serious (which doesn't seem to be your emphasis), you can read the names of some of them in 1 Corinthians 15:1-8 (ESV).
Alleged? Do you dispute the importance of identification of witnesses within our court systems?You are using an alleged 21st century approach to history.
No, this is the 21st century. Come join us, if you like.This is the first century.
I am completely serious. You said, "the superiority of eyewitness testimony in court"; If you think anonymous second-hand witness testimony is regarded as "superior" to other evidences within North American court systems, feel free to provide some examples.If you are serious (which doesn't seem to be your emphasis), you can read the names of some of them in 1 Corinthians 15:1-8 (ESV).
So in other words, take physics and bin it? Look, I'm sorry, but this is a perfect illustration of why we use methodological naturalism.
In reality, Noah's Ark is not possible. The fact that you have to invoke the supernatural to make it work is an admission of failure. It's saying, "Yeah, you're right, without some external force which we cannot prove exists, this could not happen." You could apply that to anything.
Show your math.
Once you have made an appeal to magic, however small, everything goes out the window.
Why could not this allegedly all-powerful-all-knowing-whatever simply fix the problem without flooding the Earth? Or, why bother with a boat? Just teleport the animals and people to when/where they need to be.
But then, that does not make for big scary stories for the preachers to use to keep the flock in line.
You're missing the fact that the Creator of the universe said it happened. It wasn't made up by me or someone else. So if the Creator of the universe said it happened, then that overrules everything else, meaning your and everyone else's interpretations of naturalism.
This is why what you state above is meaningless to some; some people don't believe, what some men wrote down in stories, is the same as some creator talking and they don't see the stories as valid.
It would be like me using the holy book from another religion, you probably wouldn't go along with it.
Hello all,
In your opinion, what's the very best argument for the existence of God? Conversely, what's the top argument against the existence of God? Interested to hear your responses and subsequent reasoning. Thanks!
Ah! But can you see why it would be reasonable to those who do in fact believe the Bible to be the word of God?
Correct. But we've discussed this before: I believe the Bible based on internal/external evidence that it's true and based on personal experience, the sort spoken of in the NT.
How many eyewitnesses would convince you that a man levitated, then transformed himself into an elephant with heads on both ends?
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