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<blockquote data-quote="Blindwatchmaker" data-source="post: 75781853" data-attributes="member: 433382"><p>If I understand it correctly, your reply makes two points:</p><p></p><p>1) People are still choosing to dismiss the evidence because of the sunk cost fallacy and are therefore choosing their beliefs.</p><p></p><p>2) God is the author of all rules and is therefore entitled to punish anyone as he sees fit.</p><p></p><p>1) The sunk cost fallacy is a heuristic and people falling for it are still not choosing to be fooled by the fallacy. It may be a fault in their cognition but clearly if they believed they would act accordingly. It's still the case that the lack of belief is something that happens to them, not BY them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>2) Yes if God is all-powerful he can make whatever rules he wants. My question is whether or not that is moral. If you say that anything God does is moral by definition, then you are surrendering your ability to assess ethics with an independent mind.</p><p>'Might' does not make right. </p><p>If God said we should kill all non virgin brides would that suddenly make it right?</p><p>You may answer that God would not do that, in which case God would be adhering to some other moral code.</p><p></p><p>To me, if there were an all-powerful being that chose to create me knowing I would not believe in him (due to lack of evidence and with God also knowing what evidence would be sufficient to convince me and choosing not to provide it) and then chose to punish me for eternity because I applied reason using the brain he gave me, then I would not worship or respect such a bully even if it turned out he did exist.</p><p>I would take my punishment knowing that I was on the ethical side of the issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blindwatchmaker, post: 75781853, member: 433382"] If I understand it correctly, your reply makes two points: 1) People are still choosing to dismiss the evidence because of the sunk cost fallacy and are therefore choosing their beliefs. 2) God is the author of all rules and is therefore entitled to punish anyone as he sees fit. 1) The sunk cost fallacy is a heuristic and people falling for it are still not choosing to be fooled by the fallacy. It may be a fault in their cognition but clearly if they believed they would act accordingly. It's still the case that the lack of belief is something that happens to them, not BY them. 2) Yes if God is all-powerful he can make whatever rules he wants. My question is whether or not that is moral. If you say that anything God does is moral by definition, then you are surrendering your ability to assess ethics with an independent mind. 'Might' does not make right. If God said we should kill all non virgin brides would that suddenly make it right? You may answer that God would not do that, in which case God would be adhering to some other moral code. To me, if there were an all-powerful being that chose to create me knowing I would not believe in him (due to lack of evidence and with God also knowing what evidence would be sufficient to convince me and choosing not to provide it) and then chose to punish me for eternity because I applied reason using the brain he gave me, then I would not worship or respect such a bully even if it turned out he did exist. I would take my punishment knowing that I was on the ethical side of the issue. [/QUOTE]
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