Baylor frat holds 'Cinco de Drinko' party. Students reportedly dressed as maids, construction worker

[SummerMadness]

Baylor frat holds 'Cinco de Drinko' party. Students reportedly dressed as maids, construction worker

When a friend in Skye Thomas's dorm invited her to check out a fraternity party Saturday night, she had no idea there would be a theme.

Thomas, a freshman at Baylor University in Waco, Tex., arrived at the Kappa Sigma party to find attendees dressed in sombreros, ponchos and flower crowns. A bartender had painted his face brown, and two male students were dancing on tables dressed in bright orange and neon green construction vests.

She asked a partygoer about the outfits, and soon learned it was a "Mexican" theme. Others would later say the theme was advertised as "Cinco de Mayo," or even "Drinko de Mayo," and "Cinco de Drinko." Some students would report seeing attendees dressed as maids.

Yay, for bigotry in institutions of higher learning.

 

[Nithavela]

Considering the other news that abounds these days about frat parties, this sounds positively harmless.

 

[SummerMadness]

Baylor University frat suspended for hosting racist 'Mexican-themed' party

The members of the Kappa Sigma fraternity at Baylor University faced repercussions for throwing a "Mexican-themed" party for Cinco de Mayo.

Attendees of the party, which was called "Cinco de Drinko," were not only dressed in ponchos and sombreros but also in construction worker and maid outfits. Some guests even attended wearing brown face paint and chanted “Build that wall,” according to local reports.

 

[SummerMadness]

Considering the other news that abounds these days about frat parties, this sounds positively harmless.

Hazing and fraternity initiations kill young men and women routinely; however, that story was one of the few times the hazers were charged.

 

[Nithavela]

I fail to see the racism.

 

[2Timothy2:15]

Baylor frat holds 'Cinco de Drinko' party. Students reportedly dressed as maids, construction worker
Yay, for bigotry in institutions of higher learning.

I looked at those pictures and did not see anything that was described. I saw a dude wearing a sombrero and a traditional looking dress. I am half Mexican and this does not offend me in the least. Sometimes people are just trying to find nonsense to be offended about.

 

[SummerMadness]

I fail to see the racism.

Partygoers in brownface makeup is a pretty good example. If your contention is that Mexico is a country, thus bigoted caricatures of Mexicans has nothing to do with race, tell that to all the Nicaraguans or Colombians that are told to go back to Mexico, despite them having no connection to that country. Or how about people saying how much they hate Mexicans to people like Louis CK, who up learning of his heritage, still deny his heritage (Afro Latinos also have similar experiences). When people refer to Mexicans, often times it is treated as a catchall phrase for brown people who are not white or black. It's racism.

 

[Hank77]

Baylor University frat suspended for hosting racist 'Mexican-themed' party

How is this objectionable compared to ST Patty's Day parties were people dress as leprechauns and other Irish mythology characters. They also dress as fireman and police officers because the Irish have a history of being in these professions. Some wear red hair wigs. Jokes about Irish drinking and the Irish temper are told all year round.

 

[SummerMadness]

How is this objectionable compared to ST Patty's Day parties were people dress as leprechauns and other Irish mythology characters. They also dress as fireman and police officers because the Irish have a history of being in these professions. Some wear red hair wigs. Jokes about Irish drinking and the Irish temper are told all year round.

Brownface makeup

 

[2Timothy2:15]

Partygoers in brownface makeup is a pretty good example. If your contention is that Mexico is a country, thus bigoted caricatures of Mexicans has nothing to do with race, tell that to all the Nicaraguans or Colombians that are told to go back to Mexico, despite them having no connection to that country. Or how about people saying how much they hate Mexicans to people like Louis CK, who up learning of his heritage, still deny his heritage (Afro Latinos also have similar experiences). When people refer to Mexicans, often times it is treated as a catchall phrase for brown people who are not white or black. It's racism.

Usually people mistake central and south americans for mexicans because they are just ignorant. Being half Mexican I can tell you it is easy for me to discern someone is not Mexican. But in the big picture usually someone from Columbia will immediately correct them and say I am not Mexican but Columbian proudly. My father, who is Mexican is a construction worker lol, he works hard and that is a hard honest way to make a living. I do not find it offense that someone would dress that way.

Anyhow the whole thing is ridiculous since Cinco de Mayo is not even Mexican independence day lol. It is the day a famous battle in Pueblo was won and in Mexico only people in Pueblo celebrate it, no one else in Mexico cares about Cinco de Mayo. Mexican independence day is Sept 16, so this is just ignorant all around.

From a Christian perspective I really do not care about race, nor should any Christian. I care more about the state of someones eternity. As long as you are focused on worldly issues like racism you are being taken out of the real war which is spiritual and playing right into the hands of the enemy.

 

[Hank77]

Partygoers in brownface makeup is a pretty good example.

Well if you are dressing up as someone who has darker skin than you do than yes you would need to use makeup. You may need to wear a wig as well.
If you were dressing up as a Smurf or the Jolly Green Giant then you definitely need to use skin paint.

 

[SummerMadness]

Usually people mistake central and south americans for mexicans because they are just ignorant. Being half Mexican I can tell you it is easy for me to discern someone is not Mexican. But in the big picture usually someone from Columbia will immediately correct them and say I am not Mexican but Columbian proudly. My father, who is Mexican is a construction worker lol, he works hard and that is a hard honest way to make a living. I do not find it offense that someone would dress that way.

Well, that's the point, it's ignorance. But their classification is primarily based on seeing "brown people." There are many people that deny Afro Cubans are Cuban because spanish-speaking countries are "not black" (i.e., black people are either African or descendants of African slaves in the southern United States). Their ignorance does not change the racist nature of their classification.

Anyhow the whole thing is ridiculous since Cinco de Mayo is not even Mexican independence day lol. It is the day a famous battle in Pueblo was won and in Mexico only people in Pueblo celebrate it, no one else in Mexico cares about Cinco de Mayo. Mexican independence day is Sept 16, so this is just ignorant all around.

True, Cinco de Mayo is much like Chinese food in the United States is to Chinese nationals.

Well if you are dressing up as someone who has darker skin than you do than yes you would need to use makeup. You may need to wear a wig as well.
If you were dressing up as a Smurf or the Jolly Green Giant then you definitely need to use skin paint.

Mexican is a nationality, not a skin color. Even arguing from the standpoint of wearing cultural items from another country, you're talking about items, not skin color.

Also, a leprechaun and other mythical creatures has nothing to do with race. I'm pretty sure there would be no cries of racism because someone dressed up like a chupacabra.

 

[Hank77]

Usually people mistake central and south americans for mexicans because they are just ignorant. Being half Mexican I can tell you it is easy for me to discern someone is not Mexican. But in the big picture usually someone from Columbia will immediately correct them and say I am not Mexican but Columbian proudly.

I had a good friend in college who was from Chile and he was he same way about making it clear that he wasn't Mexican.
But when it came to skin color it was a joke, I was the saltine to his graham. There was nothing racist about it.

 

[2Timothy2:15]

There are many people that deny Afro Cubans are Cuban because spanish-speaking countries are "not black" (i.e., black people are either African or descendants of African slaves in the southern United States).

This is a fact, actually if you go to any Latino country you will find blatant racism towards african heritage people. Fact if you go to just about any country in Asia you will find the same. Chinese are extremely racist towards african descended people. All in all there is far less racism here in the US than most of the world but most people are ignorant to that...

Even in my family because I am half Mexican I got teased non stop growing up. Called wedo (means white) and I can tell you there is just as much over all racism with Mexicans towards white people and africans if not more than most white people I meet.

What are we talking about here, a bunch of kids trying to find an excuse to have a party and be funny. Surely they are foolish kids, but that is just how I see it, foolishness, not racism.

 

[Albion]

Actually, I'm relieved. After all the news reports, whether real or fake, about college fraternities doing truly irresponsible things lately, and about stuff happening at Baylor in particular, it's a relief to turn to a thread about "Baylor frat holds...party" and find it to be harmless.

 

[SummerMadness]

This is a fact, actually if you go to any Latino country you will find blatant racism towards african heritage people. Fact if you go to just about any country in Asia you will find the same. Chinese are extremely racist towards african descended people. All in all there is far less racism here in the US than most of the world but most people are ignorant to that...

There is plenty of racism in the US and around the world. In my travels, you may hear more overt racism, but being American can have a major effect on how you're treated. Your path into an bar or club may be barred if they think you're an African immigrant, but the demeanor changes to welcoming if they find out you're American. I would say I am more fearful going out as a tourist in American society than any other I've visited because US police certainly have an issue with racial profiling.

Even in my family because I am half Mexican I got teased non stop growing up. Called wedo (means white) and I can tell you there is just as much over all racism with Mexicans towards white people and africans if not more than most white people I meet.

Racism is more than people being called names or teased, it also extends to economic opportunity, housing discrimination, police brutality, etc.

What are we talking about here, a bunch of kids trying to find an excuse to have a party and be funny. Surely they are foolish kids, but that is just how I see it, foolishness, not racism.

I'm sorry, brownface makeup is racist. No, they are probably not murderous thugs, but that doesn't change the fact that it is racist. Not all racists are violent Nazis or KKK members, there's definitely a scale to this.

 

[Hank77]

Mexican is a nationality, not a skin color. Even arguing from the standpoint of wearing cultural items from another country, you're talking about items, not skin color.

Of coarse it is a nationality. But it is also a fact that almost all Mexicans have darker skin than many other white people. Although I have a family member that several times has had Mexican men speak to him in Spanish because they think that he is Mexican. He has dark skin, black hair, brown eyes, and stands about 5'7". He just tans easily and spends lots of time in the sun. Were those men being racist because they identified him as Mexican because he has dark skin? They certainly wouldn't have thought he was Mexican if he were a saltine like me.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I don't see anything too particularly offensive here. I can grant the brown face paint is a little much but come on now... as far as racism goes, this is pretty mild.

Maybe for the 4th of July someone can put on some pasty white makeup and dress as a slave owner as a compromise.

 

[2Timothy2:15]

There is plenty of racism in the US and around the world. In my travels, you may hear more overt racism, but being American can have a major effect on how you're treated. Your path into an bar or club may be barred if they think you're an African immigrant, but the demeanor changes to welcoming if they find out you're American. I would say I am more fearful going out as a tourist in American society than any other I've visited because US police certainly have an issue with racial profiling.

[Staff edit].

I have traveled all over too, and I have been all over Latin America, for one, you do not see Africans in any good position anywhere in Mexico, Central, or South America or Asia. You will not find business people or people doing well. Your travels to bars are probably in tourist areas anyhow and you are not seeing the real country, only the face they want you to see.

Racism is more than people being called names or teased, it also extends to economic opportunity, housing discrimination, police brutality, etc.

For me it seemed very real and it is my personal testimony. Being called names is not enough? Hmm I think many people called the N word would have a different take on that. I get the feeling you are minimizing my testimony. Housing discrimination? Nonsense, you have a good job and make money you can live where ever you want here. Wonder if NBA players living in multi million dollar homes feel they are being discriminated against.

[Staff edit].

 

[Rion]

How is this objectionable compared to ST Patty's Day parties were people dress as leprechauns and other Irish mythology characters. They also dress as fireman and police officers because the Irish have a history of being in these professions. Some wear red hair wigs. Jokes about Irish drinking and the Irish temper are told all year round.

Because a certain segment of the left don't believe that you can be racist against whites. While not always the case, obviously, I have found that the more outraged someone is over something like this, the more likely that they deny that one can be racist against whites.

I don't have a problem with this, your Irish example, or people dressing up in stereotypical American Indian costumes either.